Stronghold Crusader 2 è il tanto atteso seguito dell'originale gioco di 'simulazione di castelli'. Dopo 12 anni Stronghold ritorna nel deserto con un nuovo motore 3D ed una potente fisica Havok. Firefly Studios riprenderà l'appassionante gameplay a passo serrato dell'originale Crusader e la realistica simulazione di castello.
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"fun castle rts, havn't played anything but campaign but the combat and building is fun. Needs better production chain descriptions though."

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13 maggio

Out Now: The Emperor & The Hermit DLC

New Missions, Characters and Castles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XxpCZqiVdw

http://store.steampowered.com/app/349000/

The Angel of Death hovers over your castle! The Emperor & The Hermit DLC introduces two extra AI opponents and an all-new Crusader Trail campaign. Spiritual successors to The Emperor and The Abbot from the original Stronghold Crusader (2002), The Emperor and The Hermit are driven by religious fervour. Backed by zealots who follow their cause without question, be it just or corrupt, both leaders represent a dangerous new threat to all sides in the Crusader conflict. The next expansion for Stronghold Crusader 2, The Emperor & The Hermit adds seven missions, two AI opponents, 10 achievements, additional player shields and new castle designs unique to The Emperor and The Hermit. It is now available for £3.99/$5.99/€4.99, with an additional 33% off for the next seven days!

New Missions

After years of isolated reverence the Hermit has been driven blind by his self-righteous claim to sacred authority. Now he commands legions of assassins, ensuring his enemies see no more of his approaching armies than he does! From further afield comes the Emperor, an elderly man who will rest at nothing to expand his holy kingdom using the vast armies at his command. Cunning tactics and battle hardened wits will be needed to fight through the seven missions and unique maps found in the new ‘The Emperor & The Hermit’ Skirmish Trail, our most challenging trail yet!

New AI Opponents

The Emperor

Originally from Germany, The Emperor was once a high-profile religious figure revered worldwide. Excommunicated from the Church and disgraced in the eyes of his former followers, The Emperor now leads a splinter group of fanatics who believe him chosen by God to guide them in the holy land. Having abandoned any sense of religious obligation to his fellow man, The Emperor will stop at nothing to reclaim his former power and authority.

The Hermit

Subject to a heavily religious upbringing in lands that are now being used as a battleground, The Hermit is negatively disposed toward the invading Crusader hordes. The Hermit is a departure for Stronghold with no preordained authority, royal lineage, military background or house to act as a status symbol. What he does control is an army of religious zealots, equally angry about the invasion and out for Crusader blood as their leader. For these men the idea of following The Hermit in his counter-crusade against Richard is a most noble cause.

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23 aprile

Invasions Now Live

Sandbox Sieges, Easy AI Mode, New Maps and More!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDAPCEkYNWg
Our new ‘Invasions’ update is now available on Steam, free for all owners of Stronghold Crusader 2. Launch siege invasions against your castle in Sandbox mode, turn on easy AI or choose your faction in single player Skirmish Trail missions and build across a selection of new maps in custom skirmish, sandbox or online multiplayer.

Siege Invasions
Siege invasions allow you to launch AI sieges against experimental castle designs in Crusader 2's free build Sandbox mode. Refine best practices for castle construction and create the ultimate stronghold, testing your most robust castles against powerful AI invasions. Launch siege armies of varying sizes, add random events and more!

Easy AI Mode
Having trouble completing each Skirmish Trail? Is the AI taunting you in your dreams? A new easy mode can now be turned on, toning down the notorious difficulty of Skirmish Trail missions and providing players with some breathing room. Reducing the frequency and aggressiveness of enemy attacks, this feature is designed to ease up on the challenge for players struggling against Stronghold's famously challenging antagonists. The Trails will nevertheless remain a challenge, so don't dare let your guard down!

Faction Selection
For the first time in Stronghold history you can now choose which of the two factions you wish to represent in Skirmish Trail missions. Having developed an Arabic faction story campaign to tell the tale of Saladin's forces, we have now further blurred the lines between good and evil by giving you the choice of which faction you wish to represent on the battlefield. Gain access to the advantages and disadvantages of their unique castle architecture by playing as either invading Crusaders or Arabic freedom fighters.

New Maps
From the no man’s land of ‘Interlocked’ to the steep slopes of ‘Volcano’ and the woodlands of ‘The Forest’, this new map pack adds both Skirmish and Sandbox maps to the game. With unique landscapes featuring beaches, lakes and even the odd volcano, you can now do battle across a variety of different scenery while drenching the desert sands with the blood of your enemies.

In addition we have also fixed various bugs - Full Update Notes

Please Note: This feature update should download automatically when you launch the Steam client. To confirm whether or not the download was successful, check the version number displayed in the bottom left corner of the main menu screen when launching Crusader 2. If the number displayed is not v1.0.21103 please restart Steam until the update downloads.

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Recensioni

“Per i giocatori veterani esperti di Stronghold, Crusader 2 è l'evoluzione trionfale del gioco che è rimasto nel loro cuore per gli ultimi dodici anni.”
8/10 – Strategy Informer

“Il gioco è rifinito e moderno: è basato su modelli in 3D ed è costruito con un motore fisico rigoroso.”
4/5 – Empire

“Un gioco di castelli a ritmo serrato, come doveva essere.”
8/10 – Hooked Gamers

DLC in evidenza



L'angelo della morte si sta librando sopra il tuo castello! Il DLC L'Imperatore e l'Eremita introduce due nuovi nemici IA ed una nuovo percorso schermaglia Crusader. Successori spirituali dell'Imperatore e l'Abate dell'originale Stronghold Crusader (2002), l'Imperatore e l'Eremita sono guidati nelle crociate interamente dalla loro fede religiosa. Sostenuti da fanatici che seguono ciecamente la loro causa, giusta o sbagliata che sia, questi nuovi personaggi sono una pericolosa minaccia per entrambe le fazioni del conflitto crociato.

La nuova espansione di Stronghold Crusader 2, L'Imperatore e l'Eremita aggiunge sette missioni, due nuovi nemici IA, achievements, scudi aggiuntivi per i giocatori e dei nuovi design dei castelli che caratterizzano l'Imperatore e l'Eremita.

Edizione speciale

  • Un artbook digitale
  • La colonna sonora composta da Robert Euvino
  • Una copia Steam di Stronghold Crusader HD

Riguardo questo gioco



Stronghold Crusader 2 è il tanto atteso seguito di Stronghold: Crusader, l'originale gioco di 'simulazione di castelli'. Dopo 12 anni Stronghold ritorna nel deserto del Medio Oriente nel 1189 circa, con un nuovo motore 3D e una distruzione di castelli realistica grazie alla fisica Havok. Crusader 2 riprenderà l'appassionante gameplay a passo serrato del gioco originale e la realistica simulazione di castello.

Fedele alle sue radici, questo nuovo Stronghold sarà definito come un gioco di strategia a tempo reale 'old school', che unisce il gameplay dei giochi RTS e dei giochi di costruzione di città. Giocando come un brutale cavaliere crociato o come un arabo che combatte per la libertà, tu dovrai usare una massa di truppe micidiali e di macchine d'assedio distruttive per decidere il destino delle terre sacre. Guida le tue forze in battaglia impersonando Riccardo Cuor di Leone o il sultano di Siria in due campagne a giocatore singolo a base storica, con eventi dinamici come tornado e sciami di locuste. Diventa il signore più potente creando la tua economia nel deserto e prendendo il controllo delle oasi vitali.



Per dominare il campo di battaglia tu dovrai comandare più di 25 tipi di unità, che hanno delle proprie abilità speciali. Solleva i morali con l'ufficiale armato, vai alla carica con i cavalieri sasanidi, usa gli arcieri per lanciare raffiche di frecce o scala le mura del castello con i micidiali assassini. Dopo aver perfezionato le tue abilità, mettile alla prova nella modalità schermaglia o in partite multiplayer a cui possono partecipare fino ad otto giocatori, tra persone reali e Lord IA. Crea squadre, scegli differenti nemici IA e disegna la tua mappa nel miglior gioco schermaglia o multiplayer!



  • Costruisci il castello migliore - Progetta potenti fortezze e riempile di trappole infernali per distruggere i tuoi nemici!
  • Modalità schermaglia - Assedia i tuoi nemici in una partita schermaglia a tempo serrato contro i personaggia IA.
  • 8 giocatori nella modalità multiplayer - Crea combinazioni con giocatori e nemici IA, mappe e modalità di gioco per realizzare il tuo gioco multiplayer ideale.
  • Comabtti contro un'ampia gamma di lord IA - Combatti contro classici personaggi IA con personalità, castelli e stili di gioco caratteristici.
  • Sfida il sentiero di Crusader - Metti alla prova il tuo coraggio attraverso diverse campagne schermaglia di difficoltà crescente.
  • Gioca cooperando - Condividi il controllo degli edifici del castello, delle truppe e della gestione delle risorse usando la modalità cooperativa.
  • Castello in modalità sandbox - Buttati nell'editor di mappa o nella modalità 'Costruzione libera' e costruisci il miglior castello senza paura di venire attaccato.

Requisiti di sistema

    Minimum:
    • OS: Windows® XP/Windows Vista/Windows 7/Windows 8 (ultimo pacchetto di servizi)
    • Processor: Intel Core2 Duo 2Ghz o equivalente
    • Memory: 2 GB RAM
    • Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800GT 512MB o AMD Radeon™ HD 2900XT 512MB o migliori
    • DirectX: Version 9.0c
    • Network: Broadband Internet connection
    • Hard Drive: 4 GB available space
    Recommended:
    • OS: Windows® Vista/7/8 64-bit with latest service packs
    • Processor: Intel® Core™ i5 or equivalent
    • Memory: 8 GB RAM
    • Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 460 1GB or AMD Radeon™ HD 5830 1GB or better
    • DirectX: Version 9.0c
    • Network: Broadband Internet connection
    • Hard Drive: 4 GB available space
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Pubblicata: 2 aprile
Qui un video del mio canale dove spiego tutto!

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7.9 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 10 dicembre 2014
Da grandissimo appassionato e fan di questa serie (ho tutti i capitoli xD), posso tranquillamente affermare che questo gioco rievoca pienamente lo stile del primo Stronghold Crusader, grandissimo capolavoro. Senz'altro lo consiglio, anche se devo ammettere che il prezzo è a parer mio un po' eccessivo...
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Pubblicata: 19 aprile
Un buon gioco, alcune pecche sono state corrette (la maggior parte) altre invece ci sono ancora (ttrascinando la selezione ai limiti dello schermo quando si muove perdi la selezione delle unità fuori dallo schermo). Secondo me è un gioco difficile ma non impossibile, bisogna mettersi d'impegno per imparare bene (dopo 16 ore ancora a volte prendo sberle mica da ridere). Lo consiglio a tutti coloro che vogliono confrontarsi con uno strateguico in tempo reale che non ti fa vincere, ma che ti sprona a continuare a provare per migliorare sempre di più!
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110 persone su 150 (73%) hanno trovato questa recensione utile
11.5 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 10 dicembre 2014
5/10
I wont lie, I was a little dissapionted with this game when I first stared playing, I was a big fan of its predecessor 'Stonghold crusader', this was by far one of my favorite games when I was younger.
Pros and cons:

PROS- The graphics in-game have been updated, although not as much as you might hope for, especially for the fact that the old one came out 12 years ago.
- It is much harder to appease the peasants who flock to your castle, this does make the game a bit more challenging when it comes down to 'laying siege' to an enemies castle, at least in multiplayer. You can starve your enemy in a manner of speaking.
- There are new units, athough most of these are nearly identical to the predecessors, using some of the same quotes and one-liners.
- The walls fall down in 3D, instead of dissapearing,
- Destruction of castle walls and towers, looks better,
CONS- the Opening menu was a major dissapointment, i dont really know what i expected but the predecessors kicked ♥♥♥ compared to this new one.
- The new AI sucks, really sucks, (eg. the enemy computer always gets free siege equipment)
- The graphics aren't that imppressive for the amount of processing power it takes to run the game.
- The price tag for what you get is practically extortion.
- If you arent familiar with the game it is quite hard to understand the mechanics of the game, depsite the introduction campaign/scenario
- The new voice acting for the AI is just generally annoying, in my personal opinion they should have used the old voices from the last game.
- The mulitiplayer menu, is the same as the opening menu, a dissapointment
- There is a building and troop limit, whilst understandably for lower end computers is unchangeable, but there should be a way to adjust it.

All in all the game leaves you feeling a little underwhelmed, to be honest if your thinking of buying this game do yourself a favour and wait until a sale, save yourself the dissapointment of spending a lot of money on something that isn't quite up to standard.
I do know that Firefly are releasing updates and extensions so hopefully in the future they may be able to fix some of the problems, and annoyances.
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176 persone su 254 (69%) hanno trovato questa recensione utile
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7.4 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 9 dicembre 2014
Do you want a castle sim? Do you want that medieval atmosphere of Stronhold 1? Dealing with famine, diseases, economy and war? Well, my friend, then you [not] are in luck! .... For this is indeed not the game you were looking for!

I get that the devs gave it a shot. The game has a heart. As someone who throughout the year followed firefly studios, it is clear that it is now but a shadow of what it used to be. With very little resources they wanted to do their best.

However, as hard of a shot they gave, to me, everything just fell apart from the very moment you start the game, and here is why:

The artwork is just sad. Egyptian hieroglyph looks better than what we see here.
UI is terrible, it feels very alpha. *cough* look at that type font *cough*

No economy, just a lifeless corpse of a castle that spits out little clones to either attack or defend it.
If you wanted a sim, like me, you wont see people chatting and going about their lives, there is no micro management. Nothing to see. Where are the citizens, the animations?

Take SH1, just awe at the amount of detail that it had, moss in the walls, cracks in the wood and stone. Even wind ffs.

Unfortunatly, you cannot stop and think: is this just a SH3 reskin with less bugs?

Is it a waste of time? God no. The gameplay is bland but at times, you may find some joy in it. Fans will do a fair bit of it out of pure nostalgia. Smashing walls can be fun.

In the end, the game just doesn’t do much for you to like it for very long.
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3.9 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 25 febbraio
My favorite part was when the AI rebuilt their entire fortress in under one second and the AI kept repeating the same thing over and over and over and over. Luckily the game crashed to my library where I realized I had far better games. Thanks Stronghold! Lots of potential but overall lack luster


5 beets out of 10
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Pubblicata: 1 aprile
I'm realy disappointed from FireFly's SHC2 :( ... and this again after SH3 :(
First i thought "Ok its new on the market. This lags and bugs are normal and will be fixed in the next upcoming patchs"
But FireFly give a sh!t to fix this lags :/
The multiplayer is realy unplayable if there are 4 players having max. buildings and troops.
After 1/2 year they still didnt fix this lags ..... realy realy sad. I had so much hope.. I was waiting sooo long with my review but now i cant wait anymore. They started with DLC's and forget about the big problems this game have :(

This game is again a fail cause the prgrammers dont have enought skill to get this game working.
Again a waste of money :(
If you want to play this game in multiplayer then forget about it. It's not the money worth.
Singleplayer is somehow better playable then mp.

By the way. I have an intel E3 1231, Nvidia GTX 770 (4GB), SSD and 8 GB RAM. So my machine is not to slow to run this game with its low and old graphic^^
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48 persone su 82 (59%) hanno trovato questa recensione utile
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41.9 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 13 dicembre 2014
I thought that Stronghold Crusader 2 would have been a good game as the developers could have remedied the issues that came up in Stronghold 3 and applied it to this game. My hopes have been let down yet again. There is an insane amount of lag like Stronghold 3, when you click on the icons they do not always respond, when you mouse over the icon information like cost and materials does not always pop up, I have had buildings vanish as though I never built them even though the materials are gone, and too many other problems to count. I have wasted my money yet again on this game series. Never again. To hell with those that made this game and to hell with those that gave birth to them. I would recommend spending your hard earned money on something better.
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55.2 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 15 febbraio
simply too expensive and with less tactical possibilities than the first one,

I wouldn't recommend it
and believe me I never waste my time to post any comments

don't buy this sequel, unless it's 10 eur

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52.6 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 20 dicembre 2014
True to its roots and resurrected in a 3D engine. This game adds more varied unit types over the first Crusader but it is unfortunate they couldn't do more with the new game engine.

This Stronghold surpasses Stronghold 2 when it comes to skirmishes - with a pretty good selection of maps, a slew of relatively interesting AI's, and a chain of increasingly difficult skirmish challenges. Unfortunately, a lot of the great castle sim features of Stronghold 2 are absent. In fact, even the castle management parts of SHC have been "dumbed down."
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1.3 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 4 dicembre 2014
Its not like the old game infact everyrthing is small and very slow with gathering things and it just doesnt have that "Stronghold Feel" like the other games do and, i don't know if its me but i feel like a alot of things were taken out but in all this game isnt worth $49.99
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16 persone su 24 (67%) hanno trovato questa recensione utile
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Pubblicata: 28 dicembre 2014
Another god damn dissapointment
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278.7 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 2 gennaio
Stronghold Crusader 2 is a worth sequel. It had some bugs and crashs at start which got fixed soon. The integration into steam and its workshop is a nice feature.
To the game: The "campagin" has sadly no real story and it is just skirmish maps. To be fair, crusader 1 was the same.
The unit balancing is well made and this game needs more strategy thinking because of the special of the units. It is not just possible to spam one or two unit types to win.
I played over 270h now and still like it and it makes fun to play it in multiplayer.
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2.5 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 25 maggio
Just received a mail from Firefly:

1. Play the game
2. Publish a review
3. Win DLC!

So, since I already played the game, I am now publishing this review:
"The game is good. I already liked the earlier Stronghold games, especially Legends although noone else seems to like that. Stronghold Crusader 2 seems to be the best game so far."

Where is my DLC now? Did I win?
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29.0 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 25 marzo
I was a die hard original stronghold fan and after playing SH3 decided to never touch this series again, saying that my die hard fan part took over because lets face it stronghold was boss back in the day. So I ponied up to buy this game to give it a chance, the real question here is how the ♥♥♥♥ did they ♥♥♥♥ this game up so bad? I mean I'm impressed, I dont think their is anything more that they could have done to make this game any worse!!!

Lag, bugs, complete economic balance meltdowns, more lag, more bugs, complete military balance meltdowns, more bugs for days. Take your pick, the entire game dynamic has been ♥♥♥♥ed to the point were you will feel mentally ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ whilst trying to execute anything in this game.

The sad part is that they took stronghold which was a completely enjoyable game and churned out this steaming pile of ♥♥♥♥, a game nobody would play for more than 30 minutes if they werent trying to give it the chance to be half as good as the originals.

If you are thinking of buying this game my advice to you would be to spend your money on a big bag of ♥♥♥♥♥ as you will probably enjoy owning a bag of ♥♥♥♥♥ more than this game!
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9 persone su 14 (64%) hanno trovato questa recensione utile
31.9 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 11 gennaio
Not worth £30, buy Crusader HD and save yourself a lot of money.
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12.8 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 9 aprile
I have played all of the previous stronghold crusader games and enjoyed them. This one is totally terrible however. At first glance it seems totally awesome. There are additional units that have been added, and the graphics are excellent. Unfortunately the AI is ridiculous. In the old Stronghold crusader you could actually use tactics and choke off your enemy by hitting his supply lines. In this one, he randomly generates additional units, and no matter how low his supplies are, each wave keeps getting harder and harder. I made it through half the campaigns and started with hard, and then went to normal and then to easy. Never had this problem before, and I've played all sorts of strategy games, including warcraft, starcraft, crusader, etc. The tutorial is very basic and its up to you to figure out how the new units actually work, so not much fun there either.
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26.7 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 19 febbraio
Stronghold Crusader 2 isn't a worthy sequel to the orginial Stronghold Crusader. If you buy it because you expect it to be as good as crusader 1 you might be disappointed. However, if you treat it as an independent castle sim, it's a decent game. The game has some performance issues and the AI tends to ignore your commands and just randomly walk around to attack peasants instead of buildings.. those are the 2 main issues which really bother me. Other than that, the game itself is quite enjoyable. The skirmish trail has less missions than the crusade but the battles feel harder in my personal opinion. Due to the difficulty, missions usually take more time and it makes up for the minor content. Multiplayer matches with friends vs. bots are also a lot more enjoyable. Crusaders main issue was, that the bots couldn't really deal with multiplayer maps and didn't do anything.. Stronghold Crusader 2 fixed (at least) that.

Short version: If you buy the game because you loved Stronghold Crusader and have high expectations... wait for a sale. If you want a decent castle sim it's worth the money though.
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2 persone su 2 (100%) hanno trovato questa recensione utile
73.2 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 23 dicembre 2014
I like it. When I first bought the game, there were a ton of issues. At times it was unplayable. Major lag issues during battles. Somewhere around the winter update, maybe an update later, I noticed the game was playable. Almost no lag issues now. I have only played single player so far, but now that it's playable, I find the game to be as challenging/easy as the original.

I've seen a lot of people complaining about the game missing the laddermen and tunnelers. I never used them so I don't care about that. I don't understand the purpose of the market though. Why have a market when you can buy things from the stock pile? Am I missing something here? I do miss a few things; Engineers guild, leather armor, and the fear factor. I thought fear factor was a great way to identify yourself as a ruler.

Overall, I think the game is fun, but was released too early. I hope they make a Stronghold 1 expansion pack. I prefer the green environment to the desert.
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23.6 ore in totale
Pubblicata: 23 dicembre 2014
Really great game. Improves on the original in every way.
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