Vezesd gondosan nemzeted a korai tizenkilencedik század abszolutisztikus monarchiáinak korától felfedezések, kolonizációk és népfelkelések során át, hogy végül a huszadik század hajnalára a valódi világhatalmak egyikévé váljon.
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Megjelenés dátuma: 2010. aug. 30.

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Victoria II vásárlása

Ezt a játékot tartalmazó csomagok

Victoria Collection vásárlása

11 elemet tartalmaz: Victoria I Complete, Victoria II, Victoria II: A House Divided, Victoria II: A House Divided - American Civil War Spritepack, Victoria II: German Unit Pack, Victoria II: Heart of Darkness, Victoria II: Interwar Artillery Sprite Pack, Victoria II: Interwar Engineer Unit, Victoria II: Interwar Planes Sprite Pack, Victoria II: Interwar Spritepack, Victoria II: Songs of the Civil War

Paradox Grand Strategy Collection vásárlása

4 elemet tartalmaz: Crusader Kings II, Europa Universalis IV, Hearts of Iron III, Victoria II


Kurátorok, akik ajánlják

"Politcal movements, tech of the time and with grand strategy gives a huge sense of immersion. For a history buff like me it's tear jerkingly perfect."


“This is a wonderfully deep game, and its sandbox nature is much more open than Hearts of Iron III was and so it's much more enjoyable at the beginning.”
8,5/10 – Strategy Informer

“Victoria II incorporates challenging strategy and sim elements with enough flexibility to satisfy any weasel-beating gaming goof.”
4,3/5 – CheatCodeCentral

“Saying that it stands head-and-shoulders above all of the scant competition for grand-strategy kingship almost goes without saying.”
9,5/10 – CPUGamer

A játékról

Vezesd gondosan nemzeted a korai tizenkilencedik század abszolutisztikus monarchiáinak korától felfedezések, kolonizációk és népfelkelések során át, hogy végül a huszadik század hajnalára a valódi világhatalmak egyikévé váljon.

A Victoria II nagyszabású, a tizenkilencedik századi gyarmatosítások időszakától induló stratégiai játék, melyben a játékos egy országot irányít, végigvezetve azt az iparosodáson, politikai reformokon, katonai hódításokon és gyarmatosításon.

Tapasztalj meg egy olyan összetett politikai szimulációt, melyben minden tettednek különféle következményei vannak világszerte. A lakosság a döntéseidre politikai tájékozottságuk, szociális helyzetük, valamint az alapján reagál, mennyire hajlandók elfogadni kormányukat, vagy fellázadni ellene.

Fő jellemzők:
  • Komoly és átfogó politikai szimuláció különféle kormányzati módok tucatjaival.
  • Részletes gazdaság több mint ötven különféle árucikkel és különböző gyártóüzemekkel.
  • Több mint 200 különböző országgal lehet játszani az 1835-től a Második Világháborúig terjedő időszakban.
  • Fejlett technológia-rendszer felfedezhető találmányok ezreivel.
  • Javított grafika és kezelőfelület, valamint többjátékos támogatás.
  • Az optimalizált kezelőfelület könnyen kezelhetővé teszi a játékot.
  • Egyes feladatok, például a kereskedelem és a lakosság fejlesztése, automatizálása.
  • Fejlett befolyási övezet rendszer, melyben a nagyhatalmak a világ irányításáért küzdenek.
  • Az iparosodás előtti gazdaságot szimuláló háziipari rendszer.
  • Fegyveres diplomácia; minek tárgyalgatni, ha a kikötő előtt várakozó hadiflotta mindennél meggyőzőbb érvnek bizonyulhat?
  • Történelmi és dinamikus küldetések vezetik végig országodat a történelmen.


    • Operációs rendszer: XP/Vista/Windows7
    • Processzor: Intel® Pentium® IV 2.4 GHz vagy AMD 3500+
    • Memória: 2 GB RAM
    • Merevlemez-terület: 2 GB szabad merevlemez-terület
    • Videokártya: NVIDIA® GeForce 8800 vagy ATI Radeon® X1900
    • Hangkártya: DirectX® kompatibilis
    • Támogatott perifériák: Háromgombos egér, billentyűzet és hangszórók
    • Speciális többjátékos követelmények: Internet-kapcsolat a többjátékos módhoz
Hasznos vásárlói értékelések
187 emberből 148 (79%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
18 személy találta viccesnek ezt az értékelést
1,074.3 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: 2014. december 29.
Good game, got bored quickly though.
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56 emberből 52 (93%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
1 személy találta viccesnek ezt az értékelést
287.0 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: 2014. december 7.
*This review is for the full collection.*

It's a slow and number-filled grand strategy game for the most patient of players with an interest in the time period (1836-1936). Same as other Paradox games, it's real-time but you'd be mad to play it without frequently pausing unless you already know what you're doing. Every Paradox game can be said to specialize in one aspect or another of grand strategy. Victoria II does politcs and technology best, but other aspects are generally well-done too.

The period is a time of great powers flexing their muscle across the globe, vying for influence, territory and resources, and not usually through war but through diplomatic influence, alliances and colonization. Great powers ingame have special mechanics that allow them to add lesser counties to their Sphere of influence, giving them first dibs on resources and safety from invasion. That's not to say other countries are not worth playing, but the couple dozen of countries that have potential to be GPs have more flavor to them and really have disproportionate power thanks to a variety of bonuses that GPs enjoy. Much of the dynamic of the game comes not from painting the map (which is harder to do than other Paradox games if you stick to the recommended level of Infamy) but rather from trying to overtake other countries in Prestige, Industrial Power and Military Power for that coveted GP status.

This is where the technology system helps even the odds for some countries, and it is good. Every technology has juicy bonuses as well as possible inventions (which have a chance of occurring each month), which means that every tech brings big progress, giving you lots of freedom to focus on whatever playstyle you want, and making sure there is a great sense of progress all throughout the game. In fact, that sense of progress is done extremely well as different eras go by. You'll see armies and navies becoming faster, population increasing rapidly, industrialization progressing at an exponential rate, and battles becoming ever more bloody and longer, with an emphasis on defense. The scramble for Africa takes place in the 1870s and there's a couple of points where you will need to reorganize and rethink your army composition to account for the new nature of warfare, including new unit types.

The combat in Victoria II is comparable to Europa Universalis - armies face each other with a vanguard and rearguard each, with a variety of bonuses and maluses affecting how much they hurt each other every day. The armies here tend to be large and the combat attrition-based. You're expected to swap armies to and from the meat grinder to ensure that your army's Organization lasts longer than the enemy's. Early on you'll have to worry about supply limits but with technology this becomes less of an issue, as battles in rough terrain accomodate fewer soldiers at a time anyway. This is definitely a game where you want to pause every day or two on large wars. Civilized countries can conscript part of their poor population, making for even larger armies. But later in the game these are pretty much just cannon-fodder unless you have some professional support waiting for them to help them overcome enemy defenses when attacking.

The military AI of the enemy is actually somewhat competent. It'll at least know to avoid dubious battles, even when it outnumbers you but you have other advantages. It'll also use appropriate generals for what each army is doing (the generals have their own randomized bonuses). Still, the player's intellect is a force multiplier and you should be able to win any evenly-matched war. Specifically, the AI neglects to really rotate its reserves like a player would, and pull them back to be reinforced at the start of the month.

Your country's ruling party affects a variety of things, most notably the level of involvement you have in the economy. Monarchies can appoint whichever party they want, except unwashed radicals of course. Many factors will affect which parties your population supports, including events, the standard of living, and Militancy and Consciousness levels. Consciousness reflects how much your population will press for reforms, either political or social. This has the double-bladed effect of boosting your research over time, but leading to rebellions if you fail to pass popular reforms. Which just might happen if your Upper House is not as keen on reforms as the general populace. Still, some countries like Russia can pretty much remain a monarchy throughout the game if you make sure your people are content. Every GP and Secondary Power has a slightly different experience, which is strongly influenced by how you manage the country. Absolute monarchies are much more smooth-sailing overall, but usually come with low literacy. China, Japan and the USA stand out from the rest, each with its own challenges and potential.

There are many tradegoods, but trading and most of the economy usually work on autopilot, especially later in the game when in most types of government, capitalists are allowed a free hand in building up industries. Usually in not a very clever way as they will often just derp out and build a bunch of telephone factories that are just destined to close soon after. But it's the same for the AI countries, so hey. And if you want to micro everything yourself, you can go with State Capitalism or Central Planning policies, found at your local Reactionary, Socialist, Communist or Fascist party, and do everything yourself. At the expense of some efficiency, however. And lots of time, as you will have hundreds of factories by the late game. Still, the freedom is there and a whole different playstyle is available for those who want it.

The diplomacy is fairly standard for a grand-strategy game, there's nothing too outstanding here. You make alliances, with a Prestige hit if you refuse to join a defensive war. If relations are bad enough between two countries, you can fabricate a Casus Belli, but be prepared to take a likely Infamy hit. This is actually the main way of getting aggressive wars started. There are random events that will give you a Casus Belli for no Infamy, but these are pure chance. Take too much Infamy, and everyone gets to fight you for free. The interesting bit is Crises - when a region gets 'hot' enough due to the presence of a Liberation Movement or other cause, the Great Powers will take sides and, if no compromise is met, will go to war. These are major and will change the face of the map in a different way every time. Here, I just wish the same hotspots wouldn't get hot so often, like in one of my games, Greece kept sparking a crisis every year for a while, with few exceptions as it just got hot faster than anyplace else. Still, it's a great system for keeping things fresh and interesting for GPs especially.

So compared to other Paradox games, I would say it's more deterministic in that, short of some really gamey behavior, you're unlikely to paint the map the color of Peru or some other minor country. The focus is on GPs and SPs, expansionist warfare is rather limited except against uncivilized countries. You can only choose from two start dates - 1836 or 1861. The type of freedom and variety here is different from other Paradox games, it comes from the amount of control you have over politics and the economy, as well as how you meddle in world affairs. Instead of grabbing land from your civilized neighbors, you're supposed to humilate them, beat them down, leave them open to rebellion, take their allies away and in some cases fracture them into smaller nations.The game's timeframe is relatively short - though it still takes dozens of hours for a normal playthrough - but every game is guaranteed to be different thanks to the crisis system, rebels and other factors.
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20 emberből 20 (100%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
1 személy találta viccesnek ezt az értékelést
1,211.8 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: január 19.
This is the reason why I play games. literaly, this game is the first game I really got into and loved. 1300 hours later and im still loving it and have gotten into the gaming community and built my own computer because of it.

you do start to notice a couple quirks in the game when youve played it as long as I have though.

1.) The game can be unstable. I cant tell you how many times ive had to sit down and "fix" the game because of problem #2
2.) This game needs mods. after you've bought all the expansions and kicked ♥♥♥ as every country you can think of things get a little stale, its not like you want to play a new game, you want to play victoria 2... only better. to make it better however you need to install mods. hmm.. i wonder what steam function would have been helpfull for that that both euIII, euIV and ck2 have..
3.) The game needs workshop support. this is one you can't fix yourself and its shity
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24 emberből 22 (92%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
1 személy találta viccesnek ezt az értékelést
71.5 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: 2014. december 2.
Those of you who want this game let me give you a little insight of what to expect.(*Content may be sensitive to some viewers....viewers discretion is advised....) I casual strolled the the mall one casual cold morning in mid January. I picked up a few things that were on sale from the leftovers of christmas when I overheared 2 people in the local gamestop talking very fervently of something. "Pardox Interactive" was one word also "HOI". Then it came to me like a chill in the wind a "reckoning" if you will the words "Victoria 2". Even more intrigued as the victorian era was a favorite of mine (after all who dosn't appreciate getting there hands cut off for not meeting your rubber quota) I paid for my items and went home. Google the best bud of capitalist and farmer alike came onto the screen as I finished cooking dinner. Victoria 2 my fingers could not type the 2 words fast enough Victoria, Victoria VICTORIA....there it was all the different wikis and strategies from recent playthroughs I...well I had to take a peak not knowing that this leap of fate would rock my world to its core. Steam had not been on my computer for some time I immediatly booted it and bought Victoria 2. I...well I can't tell you the exact details of "the dream" I dubbed it to my psychaitrist but it was amazing as if a diving being had been inside the script of Victoria 2. As I dreamed for hours, days, MONTHS EVEN YEARS I began to find my everday routine revolving around turning Greece into a socialist empire. One day maybe a year (im not sure the time frame as I was certainly in limbo) from when I first opend this beauty I found a knock on the door. This knock was different than the others a more forceful, demanding knock.I opened it to find a sherrifs deputy on my front. As I was almost blinded by the sunlight, dazed almost to H**l and back, legs throbing ( but what I understand I did very little moving save to eat sleep and bathroom) I barely remember what the officer said save for "evict" and " 3 weeks". I closed the door as he left and gathered my self to go to the kitchen for a spot of whiskey (helps reinvigorate the senses). Then as I left the flask on the table went to the tele and found 148 messages un heared. I wont bore you with every one but I found that 2 of my close family had died, my reltionship with the opposite sex went bust and my landlord was very angry. Then I well I passed out as I had drank a little to much whiskey. The next thing I knew I was in a hospital bed on an IV and ventilator in critical condition (the officer had forgotten to give me the paper work and had found the door unlocked thank heavens :) ). With my story now being at its end let me leave you with a warning. This "game" is no mere toy but a weapon used by the gods to entrap mortals in an endless time warp. So if you want to have cases of water beside you, dozens of pizza boxes around you and writing a story due to a shrinks orders then BUY THIS GAME....and if not..... then please stay away as your life will never EVER be the same. P.S. I was declared mentally incapaccitated by 10/10....
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25 emberből 21 (84%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
2 személy találta viccesnek ezt az értékelést
125.6 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: január 18.
Really good strategy game, i enjoyed invading Communist America as Tsarist Russia.
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15 emberből 15 (100%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
2 személy találta viccesnek ezt az értékelést
146.0 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: február 9.
If you wanna A+ from history then this a game for you.
Japanese Colonies in Africa and Forming Byzantine Empire..
10/10 would lose social life again
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37 emberből 27 (73%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
4 személy találta viccesnek ezt az értékelést
351.1 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: február 4.
I started the second American civil war.
would civil war again.
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12 emberből 12 (100%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
4 személy találta viccesnek ezt az értékelést
53.4 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: április 17.
"An economy simulator with a game strapped onto it."

Vici 2 is about how much everyone should really hate the UK for owning the world..... the entire world. And also laughing at the poor people who think they matter.

In short: The East Indian Trade Company regrets to inform you that your country's independence is now null and void.
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24 emberből 18 (75%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
1 személy találta viccesnek ezt az értékelést
226.7 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: 2014. december 10.
10/10 would have giant communist rebellions again.
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10 emberből 10 (100%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
2 személy találta viccesnek ezt az értékelést
814.3 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: 2014. december 5.
Allows you to live out your fantasy of being a ruthless imperialist. 10/10 would subjugate the godless Orients again.
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10 emberből 10 (100%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
203.2 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: február 7.
Although it isnt the prittiest game on the market and the economic sysem requires a Phd in economics Victoria 2 satisfies everything.

+++ political system stops countries from blobbing (unlike europa universalis)
+++ No dumbing down
++ Balanced combat, as well as a nice amount of units (not to many not too little) and provide nice custimization of forces
++ Great powers and secondary powers make the game feel more real
++ Neat Political system (upperhouse, Elections and reforms)
+ Factory system
+ attention to deatail: Each country has its own flags fro Monarchy, republic, fascist and communist. And most countries have flavour events
+ Westernization is great

--- Learning curve kills players
-- Trading system I still dont get after about 100 hours

Also note: You need to have played at least 2 or more Grand Strategy titles before playing this (total war does not count.)
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29 emberből 19 (66%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
7 személy találta viccesnek ezt az értékelést
12.9 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: 2014. december 12.
I gave Jews a homeland, than got wrecked by Turkey, now i have nothing.

still worth it, though.
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6 emberből 6 (100%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
1 személy találta viccesnek ezt az értékelést
121.2 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: április 15.
France wanted Fiji. United Kingdom wanted Fiji. 5 years of war, ruined economy, millions of pounds lost, 1.200.000 soldiers dead later, France got Fiji.

10 / 10 would fight again.
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5 emberből 5 (100%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
517.1 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: január 9.
TO WAR! FOR BISMARK! Be the commander of the German troops in the Franco-Prussian war, or lead the french to victory agenst the german army! Play as sweden and crush the Russian imperilists and take back Finland, or smple play as a nation and make it great throu dont need to know that word. like they say.....Mistro select an insterament and let the music play!
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5 emberből 5 (100%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
104.8 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: január 31.
Victoria 2 is another RTS with a pause game from the fine folks at Paradox Interactive and set during the height of European colonial and Imperial power. Typically when you hear 'RTS' the first thing that pops into your mind are games like Command&Conquer and other simple 'point, click ,conquer' games where your simple goal is to win the war by any means or casualties necessary. Nothing wrong with that, but if that is the kind of strategy you enjoy you should stay far, far away from the far more realistic perspective that Victoria II offers.

Typically Paradox games are never the same (though their somewhat simplistic map and interface might lead some to think they are just the same game in different period), with Crusader Kings series focusing on dynastic ambition, Europa Univeralis on amassing a massive Empire and Hearts of Iron on winning the World Wars. Victoria 2 falls into that golden sweet spot between Europa Universalis and Hearts of Iron where the history is already written. Some things are quite likely to happen no matter what you do: such as the Germanies being united by either Prussia, Austria or Bavaria. Liberalism will also gain strength around the world and the USA will emerge as a Great Power without peer.

Other things though? Not quite so certain. You can easily cripple even the largest powerhouse such as the United Kingdom with an illtimed or ill-fought war that leads to hundreds of thousands of your precious Pops dying out; in essence crippling your industry and dooming you to a waiting game where you hope to recussitate your lagging economy.

Thankfully the game has a deep, and I mean DEEP economy system which you can spend hours or even days simply trying to manipulate to become an economic powerhouse without peer. Some games are actually simply put games where you try to maximize your economic potential and gain a toehold in the global market and they can be just as fun and rewarding... or even more so than a traditional warfare approach.

I could go onto rant about the depth, beauty and awesomness of Victoria II, but I figure I should sum this up somehow:
+Incredibly deep and complex.
+Lots of replay value.
-Unpolished gem.
-Graphics can be a turn off for some.
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5 emberből 5 (100%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
1 személy találta viccesnek ezt az értékelést
163.0 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: január 5.
Victoria 2, yet another Grand Strategy produced by Paradox Interactive, however unlike Europa Universalis taking you through the Early-Modern period, Hearts of Iron taking you through the second world war, Victoria 2 takes you through the Victorian era, a period of colonization, Nationalism, Industrialization, and Westernization.

You play as Literally any country from 1836, from the United States of Central America to the Free City of Kraków, and guide it through the Industrial era and the Victorian era.

Forge your destiny as you Guide your nation through 100 years of industrialization, war, and colonization, vie for Great Power Status and sign Alliances that at a split second, could be aimed at you, survive anarcho-liberal uprisings and anti-western Partisans as you try to Westernize as Japan.
Along with nations that already exist, there are some that are relasable or formable; defeat the Russian Empire as Sweden and Form Scandinavia, release Scotland from the United Kingdom and form your own Empire.

Play as Prussia and Form The North German Confederation, and then Germany, play as Two Sicilies and form Italy, play as France and become a giant Blob, the choice is yours, for 100 years you are free to achieve your goals, and watch the world change, not even the AI choose the same path each time.

Will the Communist Rebels in France take Paris and install their own Government? Will the Anarcho-Liberal anarchists take power in Russia? Will America spread burgers throughout the world? Will the Soviet Union fall to Democratic Germany, will Fascist France continue its rivalry with Communist Britain? Will Australia become a Communist Global power and vie with Democratic New Zealand? Or will the Democratic Rebels in the West stutter the Aussies' Chances? Will the Irish Rebels beat back the British units and Declare independence? Will Liberia colonize all of Africa before the Scramble even starts? Will Texas Annex Mexico? Will the California Republic invade Hawaii? Will the CSA end the Civil war with a Stalemate? Will the CSA come begging to the USA again for Union? Will Poland into Space? Will Bolivia into Coastline? Will Switzerland sit on its bum and watch the world go by? Will China industrialize and defeat the Western industry? Will Russia keep Alaska? I'm not certain, but all of this is possible in Victoria 2.
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4 emberből 4 (100%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
1 személy találta viccesnek ezt az értékelést
302.1 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: május 3.
China annexing India, need I say more ;)
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4 emberből 4 (100%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
113.6 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: március 19.
Victoria II is a fantastic game. I'm a player of strategic games since 1992, there are more than 20 years of experience. I played games like Civilization I, II, III, IV, V, Call to Power, C-Evo, Freeciv, and others. With friends develop a mod for civilization IV over 5 years (Realism Invictus) and say that none of them made me so motivated. It was a great joy to have contact with a really challenging game. Imagine yourself in the following situation: reactionary rebels invaded the capital, conquering it. Deploy retrograde policies, reducing the social advances. The result of this dictatorship were more 80 years this scheme without the right to vote. Feel in the skin become a secondary country like Brazil from 1836 to a superpower. Make allies and engage in a major world war. Want more? Play Victoria II!

Victoria II é um jogo fantástico. Sou jogador de jogos de estratégia desde de 1992, são mais de 20 anos de experiência. Joguei jogos como Civilization I, II, III, IV, V, Call to Power, C-Evo, Freeciv. Desenvolvo com amigos um mod para civilization IV a mais de 5 anos (Realism Invictus) e digo que nenhum deles me deixou tão motivado. Foi uma alegria imensa ter contato com um jogo realmente desafiador. Imagine-se na seguinte situação: rebeldes reacionários invadem sua capital, conquistando-a. Implantam políticas retrográdas, diminuindo os avanços sociais. O resultado desta ditadura foram mais 80 anos deste regime sem direito a voto. Sinta na pele tornar um país secundário como o Brasil de 1836 a uma superpotência. Faça aliados e se envolva em uma grande guerra mundial. Quer mais? Jogue Victoria II
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4 emberből 4 (100%) találta hasznosnak ezt az értékelést
1 személy találta viccesnek ezt az értékelést
380.9 óra a nyilvántartásban
Közzétéve: 2014. december 15.
Imagine a beautiful piece of music that's recorded on a potato, or a brilliant screenplay with a cast of entirely autistic people. That's what VicII is like - an incredibly original, balanced and fun game that's just so, so deeply flawed.

Don't get me wrong, it's my favourite paradox game (or possibly my favourite game altogether) - there are no other games with this level of depth that just work so well. When everything goes right in VicII - you've made it to the 20th century, you're a great power and you're having an arms race preparing for a great war - it feels completely perfect.

I can't think of another game where the actual *gameplay* changes naturally over time. When machine guns, trench warfare and indirect fire artillery have been developed by about 1890, there's no popup saying "Wars are fought statically now!". It just happens to be that to win a war after that point, you have to stop massing your troops into large armies and start lining them along your borders. You're not *forced* to do this, it's just that the bonuses to defence are so high that you have no choice.

Similarly, the economy and politics goes from being a trivial backwater of your country to completely dominating everything you do. By the end of the game factories are absolutely *crucial* and you'll be bending over backwards to get everything working the way you want. Politics goes from completely conservative dominated to a nightmare - by the end of the game, fascist, jacobin and communist revolutions are bulk standard. And if you have a communist revolution, for example, the way you play the game has to adapt dramatically (micro-managing your economy can be a damn nightmare). In the 100 years Vic II covers, you inevitably go from being in control of your economy and your population to being terrified of them - effective strategy becomes absolutely essential to achieving your goals.

So in terms of general strategic depth, this game is absolutely unrivaled. The flaws however, are myriad. Vic II was made before Paradox miraculously got good at programming games with CKII; despite being released in 2009 the graphics feel they came from about 10 years earlier. The game is *slow*. If your economy hasn't kicked off and you're not fighting a war, this is a waiting game. The first 30 years of a non-western country are even worse - the westernizing process is basically just several hours of sitting around doing absolutely nothing. The game *does* pick up towards its last half - but the first half can be really, damningly boring.

There are also some major gameplay flaws that really, really break the immersion, e.g the definition of a 'great power' as the top 8 scoring countries. While this is fine in itself, 'score' takes into account prestige as much as it does military strength. It's pretty normal to see Russia lose its great power status due to a lack of prestige and be overtaken by Belgium, Bavaria or Switzerland. And then, come 1890 the first 'Great War' starts with Germany, France, Italy, and the USA on one side and Belgium and Switzerland on the other - which is an *entirely* game ruining experience. A great war is *supposed* to be a cataclysmic war that goes on for years and years and reshapes the world in the process - when it ends after a month when Germany simply walks its troops into Belgium, it feels really, really dumb.

I have some other pet peeves - for example, the way the USA is hard-coded to get way more immigrants than everybody else - even other large colonial nations like Mexico or Brazil. This means that the Americas are incredibly predictable, every game. Not once have I seen something happen other than the USA becoming a top great power with the entire continent in its sphere. It's just really really dull. There's no way to play as Mexico or Brazil and try to rival the USA for dominance of the area. With that one move Paradox cut off half the world from ever being interesting.

So yeah. It's a brilliant game that will drive you up the walls out of frustration. It's definitely worth playing, but holy ♥♥♥♥ I hope Vic III is better than this.
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Közzétéve: 2014. december 25.
If you're into grand strategy games, then this is a perfect game for you. Victoria II allows the player to play as any country founded before 1836 and continue to play as them until 1936 where the game ends. There is the aspect of micromanaging where the player has to control their economy, army, navy, research, etc. There is a steep learning curve but once you get how to play, the game is real simple. The pace of the game is moderate (singleplayer games take about 4 hours on normal, Multiplayer takes a couple of days). The two DLC for the game makes gameplay much better but if your trying to play with other then they need the DLC as well. The only problem with this game is starting multiplayer games. The only way for me and my friends to play together is to have Hamachi up and me port-forwarded. Other then that, the game is great for anyone who likes grand strategy.
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