The perfect mix of action, exploration and story with screen-filling bosses, unique platforming elements, and innovative puzzles.
User reviews: Overwhelmingly Positive (899 reviews)
Release Date: May 31, 2012

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"Awesome short-form JRPG. Definitely belongs on this list because holy moly the dialogue is so anime. A+ replayability. Give it a shot :D"

About This Game

700 years before the events of Ys I & II, the land of Ys was on the brink of destruction. Demons came in droves and forced the twin Goddesses who ruled the land to whisk their subjects away from the surface, into the safe embrace of the clouds. The demons were persistent, however, erecting a massive tower in pursuit. The battle that raged upon the ground had begun ascending for a second round up above.

One day, amidst this turmoil, the Goddesses stole away into the night, vanishing from Ys altogether. And there's only one place they could have gone: the Devil's Tower.

A search party of knights and sorcerers was hastily formed and dispatched to the surface in hopes of retrieving these runaway deities. Among its members were apprentice knight Yunica Tovah and troubled sorcerer Hugo Fact.

This is their story. Or at least, it's how each of them remembers it.

Expanding upon the gameplay elements introduced in Ys: The Ark of Napishtim and further developed in Ys: The Oath in Felghana, Ys Origin perfects the formula by adding different styles of play and new features never before seen in the Ys universe. Best described as an arcade-like platformer RPG with Metroidvania elements and a complex, multi-faceted narrative, Ys Origin is the perfect mix of action, exploration and story. Screen-filling bosses with complex AI, unique platforming elements, innovative puzzles and a deeply involving mystery await within the wildly varied confines of this classic Ys dungeon.

Come see how long you can last in the Devil's Tower...

Key Features:

  • Officially available in English for the very first time.
  • Three unique playable characters in story mode, with additional variations (and characters?) unlockable through other modes.
  • Five difficulty levels ranging from "Very Easy" for casual players to "Nightmare" for true Ys masters.
  • Unlockable "Time Attack" and "Boss Rush" modes for anyone looking to show off his/her boss-taming abilities.
  • Unlockable Arena Mode pits players against massive hordes of enemies for unique gameplay rewards.
  • Over 40 unique Steam Achievements, Steam Cloud support and hundreds of highly competitive leaderboards.
  • Minutely configurable high-resolution graphics with true widescreen support.
  • Fully adjustable controls supporting virtually any USB gamepad, as well as a standard keyboard and mouse setup.

System Requirements

    Minimum:
    • OS:XP
    • Processor:Pentium III / 1 GHz
    • Memory:1 GB RAM
    • Graphics:64 MB VRAM, 3D accelerator compatible w/ DirectX 9.0c
    • DirectX®:9.0c
    • Hard Drive:2 GB HD space
    • Sound:Compatible with DirectX 9.0c
    Recommended:
    • OS:XP, Vista, 7, 64-bit compatible
    • Processor:Pentium4 / 1.3 GHz or higher
    • Memory:1 GB RAM
    • Graphics:64 MB VRAM, 3D accelerator compatible w/ DirectX 9.0c
    • DirectX®:9.0c
    • Hard Drive:2 GB HD space
    • Sound:Compatible with DirectX 9.0c
Helpful customer reviews
39 of 47 people (83%) found this review helpful
1 person found this review funny
165.0 hrs on record
Posted: October 30, 2014
Fast paced, mash em up anime type game.

Nice little story, with a pretty good soundtrack, considering you're going to be hearing the same tracks a lot.

Some games have frustrating OST's like Banjo Tooie. Where the only reason to finish the level is to change the music. (Lookin at you Glitter Gulch Mine)

But yeah the ost is great.

When I bought this, I wanted sort of a steam version of Tales Of Symphonia, which is sort of what it turned out to be. Really just because of the anime stuff plus the mash buttons strat ya gotta employ.

It's got a lot of replayability with it and it's tantalizing to see the end of the story.

So basically,

1. Keeps you interested (Storywise)
2. Decent soundtrack
3. Doesn't p!ss you off
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37 of 49 people (76%) found this review helpful
28.2 hrs on record
Posted: October 16, 2014
Ys Origins is one of these great games you've never heard about and that has been lying on steam unknown, its worth unrecognized. Hier of a presitigious part gaming series that exists since the 80ies, Ys origins is a solid title If you don't mind anime art style and story tropes you'll have a solid isometric action RPG, with excellent bossfights and a demanding, nervous very satisfaying gameplay typical of japanesse games that has been embodied recently by darksouls.

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Ys Origins est ce genre de jeu qui traine sur steam, un peu perdu et oublié. Héritier d'une grande saga ayant commencé au cours des années 80, Ys origin est un titre généreux a condition de ne pas avoir d'alergie style manga que ce soit d'un point de vue esthétique ou narratif, par-ce que les clichés, vous allez en bouffer, chose qui n'empêche pas le jeu de conserver un certain charme et d'être une petite tuerie au niveau de son gameplay : boss-fights intressants et exigeants, très bon rythme de progression. Voilà du jeu japonais bien fichu et nerveux qui n'est pas sans rapeller Darksouls, même si la comparaison entre les deux s'arrête là.
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18 of 21 people (86%) found this review helpful
46.5 hrs on record
Posted: January 3
Another JRPG game. Yes, another great game. As a fan of rpg games. I can say that Ys origin have alot of rich stories from different perspective of the characters. This is an rpg with action that requires more than repeatedly hitting the same buttons. If you have played a YS game before then you probably know what I'm talking about.

The buttons are simple, it's easy as 1 2 3. There are 4 modes that you can play. Which is the Very Easy, Easy, Normal, Hard & Nightmare. A single playthrough on Nightmare takes about 30 hours the first time through, it's pretty hard. So those repeatedly buttons will require more than skills to finish it. There are 3 different characters that you can play, different skills, different stories, and different outfits. lol.

From the artworks and cutscenes, it takes creativity in order to create something like this. I can't say I like it, I love it. There's alot of things you can do here, you won't get bored I assure you.

After completing the game, you get to experience new menu's from the game which includes the arena mode, boss rush and such. If you're really planning to 100% complete this game, goodluck.

What I didn't liked about the game is that, the dialogues are pretty much the same for the characters but your experience will be pretty much the same each time aside from different attack methods and skills of the characters. You'll understand this if you play the game.

So all in all, if you don't have this game. You're missing out 1 great rpg game. 8/10.
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12 of 14 people (86%) found this review helpful
13.0 hrs on record
Posted: September 22, 2014
Most people, if you ask them to name a 25-year-old game series in which you explore dungeons and fight monsters, will likely say “The Legend of Zelda”. Even though the Ys series is as old as Zelda and has enjoyed immense popularity in Japan since the first game, Ys 1: Ancient Ys Vanished (1987), the series has never been that popular outside the Orient.

A few entries did make it west on PS2 and PSP, either through Konami in 2005 with Ys VI: Ark of Napishtim (the first English release of the series in thirteen years) or XSEED’s masterful handling of translations starting with Ys: The Oath in Felghana. XSEED released Ys: The Oath in Felghana, a remake of Ys III: Wanderers from Ys (1989), on Steam in March. This is the first time most PC gamers get to experience what is (in terms of number of game releases) the largest Eastern RPG series second only to Final Fantasy.

Released on Steam in May, Ys Origin is the seventh game in the Ys series and a prequel. It takes place first in terms of chronology, 700 years before the events of “Ancient Ys Vanished” (Ys I & II). As you explore a huge vertical dungeon known as “Darm Tower”, the game elaborates on much of the series’ backstory, including characters, mystical artifacts and locations.

There are three playable characters (one is initially locked until you beat the game once with either of the other two), each has their own story and combat style. Yunica, a young knight, uses an axe and sword for close-range melee. Hugo Fact, genius magician and all-round ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, shoots bullets and is the easier of the two to play. We’re not going to spoil the third character for you.

Combat is fast and action-packed, with enemies having clear and recognizable patterns to their attacks. As you hack-and-slash your way up the tower, there are some mild puzzles to solve and mild platforming elements to jump through. There’s a kind of momentum system to keep you pushing forward: as you kill enemies without stopping, you gain a bonus to the rate at which you get experience points and “SP”. The “SP” points are spent to permanently buff your character, such as increasing resistance to negative effects like poison or confuse , or to upgrade your armour.

The boss fights are where the game (and series) really strut its stuff. While mowing through general enemies is pretty easy, boss fights require focus. You’ll need to learn their attack patterns, figure out which skills to use against them, and if you’re really into that kind of thing there are Time Attack and Boss Rush challenge modes.
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6 of 6 people (100%) found this review helpful
89.6 hrs on record
Posted: January 18
Hack and slash with RPG elements where you must climb a tower killing all kinds of enemies and bosses on your way to the top to rescue a princess goddess.

  • Very solid controls and game mechanics, the game never gets fustrating despite it's dificulty. PLAY IT ON NIGHTMARE difficulty; in a similar way to Dark Souls bosses will bully you, and you will enjoy it, always coming back for more until you finally succeed.
  • Cute graphics.
  • Good music.
  • High replayability thanks to multiple characters with different playstyles and abilities, unlockables, alternate gamemodes and more. Fun game to 100% if you are a completionist.
  • Story is okay, but if you don't care about it, like me, then there's a ton of dialogue to go through (only negative part of the game: it could use a "skip full conversation" button).
  • Low price.

SCORE: Must play, stop reading reviews and buy it.
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7 of 8 people (88%) found this review helpful
1 person found this review funny
17.0 hrs on record
Posted: January 9
I bought this game a long time ago and let it sit in my Library for ages (like I'm sure we all do once Winter and Summer sales roll around. I like to think of doing so as letting the game "age like a fine wine" or something like that). Well, I finally blew the dust off the cover (metaphorically) and grabbed my gamepad to begin playing. I was met with a well-done anime-esque intro matched with beautiful music (including a sick electric guitar and violin, two of my favorites). If you are on the fence about buying this, make the jump. It feels so classic and nostalgic to so many of the older action-rpg titles yet handles well and looks beautiful (the graphics, in my opinion, aged rather well). Buy it, you are sure to enjoy it if you are a fan of arpg's!
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8 of 10 people (80%) found this review helpful
1 person found this review funny
33.6 hrs on record
Posted: December 13, 2014
If you're a glutton for punishment who loves intricate boss design and great platforming then look no further. This isometric game really should only have one difficulty setting (Nightmare) as that turns it from a button mashing snorefest to a butt clenching, ♥♥♥ sweating funhouse. Go play it and satisfy your inner masochist.
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5 of 5 people (100%) found this review helpful
16.6 hrs on record
Posted: September 26, 2014
I followed this game from the psp releases.

If you want an action/rpg game cause you miss the old days, this is one of the highly recommended.

Possitives:
Nice game play and terrain, as they used to be on Ys series.
The character skill progress develops pretty cool as you find gems that match the skill's origin gem.
Different flavored characters, which are making the game experience totally different from one to another.

Negatives:
Graphics could be a little better, but it's not really a thing.

If you are looking for a game which is HARD to finish, along with much grinding to find 100% of secrets, this is the one for you. Especially for the hardness part, on highest difficulty you will really get annoyed from pressing the f'ing "Retry".

Have fun all.
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4 of 4 people (100%) found this review helpful
118.1 hrs on record
Posted: February 3
Even with its focus on Dungeon Action/Platforming, YsO is by far my favorite adventure game and story amongst Falcom's lineup currently on steam. The dialogue and localization is fantastically written, realistic, and invests you into characters without spoon-feeding you or succumbing to many of the usual JRPG tropes. The game is challenging at appropriate difficulties, and like all of Falcom's games, changes the way bosses fight instead of just increasing their damage like a lot of other games boringly do. The music is also a given if you know anything about Falcom and the in-house JDK band.

Potential drawbacks do include having to go through multiple playthroughs in order to get the complete story out of the game, but each character's strengths/weaknesses are different enough to provide a much different gameplay experience in addition to the altered story perspective. The game is also fairly short to where you could probably finish the game within 10 hours on the lower difficulties without issue if you rush, but the quality makes up for it.

By far the most satisfying game I 100%'d on steam.
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7 of 10 people (70%) found this review helpful
62.3 hrs on record
Posted: November 1, 2014
This is one of the rare gems of RPG video games. This game is outstanding. The game is fairly long about 15-20 hours and three different characters to play through with their own story and skills. Gameplay is extremly fast paced, and enjoyable. Definatly recomend
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8 of 12 people (67%) found this review helpful
28.3 hrs on record
Posted: November 3, 2014
this game if you watch videos of gameplay in youtube maybe you can think..... mmmmm don't look great that game, but once you start playing by yourself you are going to say, magnific game!!!! worth it!!!!! amazing!!! i love it!!!!!!


also ys oath of felgana it's 95% similar to that game if you like ys origin you will like ys oath of felgana and viceversa.
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10 of 16 people (63%) found this review helpful
26.1 hrs on record
Posted: October 9, 2014
Use a controller, this game will be 10x better.
+Amazing soundtrack
+Action packed
+Bullet hell dodging
+Game does a great job of making you feel like a badass when you've mastered its controls

If you liked this game try Ys: The Oath in Felghana even though it came out earlier than this title did. Lots of fun I have beaten it & not regretted anything; If anything I need to play this game even more.
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3 of 3 people (100%) found this review helpful
97.5 hrs on record
Posted: September 26, 2014
Whether you played the other series or not, this game is not to be missed for any JRPG fans.
Yes, this game does not have an insane number of customisable skills, stats and equipments, or any potions you can keep for that matter, like Final Fantasy or the like. But you'll be too busy mashing the attack button to realise.
This game is also fun and compelling enough to play through all the characters for their individual stories and skillsets, even if you're not an achievement hunter. Note: Be prepared if you're an achievement hunter though, this game is totally unfair on the hardest difficulty setting.

Final words of advice if you get this game. Take breaks when playing this game, as in go do something else for the rest of the day. You just might not get carpal tunnel like I did. I had that much fun =D.
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2 of 2 people (100%) found this review helpful
1 person found this review funny
48.2 hrs on record
Posted: November 25, 2014
Red-head MIA
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2 of 2 people (100%) found this review helpful
111.3 hrs on record
Posted: January 29
When I bought this game, I didn't expect too much. Like may be it can kill couple of hours of boredom. Most reviews are of some grand praise but how actually this could be any good, YouTube videos quite meh, nothing amusing.

So without much anticipation I picked some girl with axe and started in nightmare difficulty. Control was good and responsive; there are some instruments in your arsenal on how to wreak havoc on your enemies. However, your enemies aren’t going to watch you kill them, some immune to this, some immune to that, some shoot barrages of projectiles, some charge without rest, some come in swarms, some bestow loads of status effects. All of them share one thing: they want you DEAD RIGHT NOW.

Terrain is quite simple, however made well in its simplicity: every zone have unique feeling about it, not like “I can watch landscape forever” of course, but certainly adds to game.

Music was to my liking, which does not necessarily mean that you would like it, but this game strong point is that tracks come in huge variety. Orchestra, piano, violin, harmonica, metal, electronic stuff – game has that all. If you played through whole game and did not like a single track that would be a huuuge “WOW!” from me.

Plot is not complex and have nothing unexpected in it but still makes you feel for characters. If you’re new to YS, it would make a nice introduction, so you won’t have “what’s happening?” feelings, if you’re veteran, some why’s and what’s would be answered.

So like I said, I picked girl with axe and started playing. Shortly I came across that guy – Velagunder, he is boss of first subsection. And he killed me… repeatedly… for six hours straight… WHAT THE F…?! I sure am not “high skilled” player or something, but I was able to finish battletoads, TNMT, contra, rollergames and such titles on NES in my childhood. What is this guy? He surely is enjoying watching me struggle, shouting angry words and writhing in agony. Six hours after he decided to surrender and I was like: “YEAH! DIE! YOU ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!!! HA! HA! HA!” running around the house like an idiot. Great feeling of completion over some pixels dead body, really not what you would have often nowadays.

And what I would like to say all of this guy friends share his hobby. This not much anticipated game gave me hell of a journey. May be not the best game I ever played, but one of most memorable for sure. I liked so much, so I bought other YS games available on Steam, and expecting more to come. YS is great franchise forged for over 20 years already and doing great on delivering suffering and spanking to people.

In conclusion, if you’re YS veteran, I wonder why you did not bought it already, YS Origin lives up to YS series standards in any way possible and if you’re new to YS whatever you like this game or not is up to you but it is sure worth a try.
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2 of 2 people (100%) found this review helpful
23.9 hrs on record
Posted: January 17
J-Just.... THE EMERSION! A game that, to me, gave a really good bonding experience with the playable characters. Good difficulty and balance, yet still the possibility to easily gain some more fighting strength for tough fights.

Not many games do, but this game gave me that empty feeling of sadness when it was over. I was forced to consider what just occured, and the meaning of it. And let me tell you, my conclusion wasn't a happy one. Knowing that your character was done and that you would never again experience the same thing is not very pleasant in this case. This is something I rarely see in the modern gaming genres. I want to mention a couple of things to those who have doubts about this game.

It's a japanese game, so it does have some anime-esk cut-scenes and images. Yet, these occur very rarely, so do not be concerned if you think this would bother you (Though, seriously, why would it?).

It's an old game, don't look for good graphics and such. Though, that's not what you primarily should be looking for in a game.

The gameplay feels smooth and fast-paced, something that I thoroughly enjoyed. Characters that are extremely unique and different from one another. Discovering the plot feels utterly fantastic. Any time something plot-related occured in between my beat up sequences, I couldn't help but let my excitement lead me through the dialogues. Remember when I mentioned I felt really empty and sad about my character that I played? How I wasn't going to be able to see her anymore? Well, that happened with not only that one, but some NPCs as well. Definitely an achievement.

Something more about difficulty. The game has 5 difficulty settings, two above and below normal. This makes it very suitable for people of all skill levels or interests. Keep in mind that you cannot change your difficulty throughout the game, yet this is also not necessary as you will always be able to beat the boss without exception because of the possibility to grind a level or two. Not once have I felt like a boss was truly overpowered. Rather, that I, myself, was underpowered. And that is something that's easy to fix.

Now, something I really appreciate about this game is that you have 3 playable characters. One of which is unlocked by finishing the game with one of the other two. This is because the final one is the hardest one to play and to minimize sploilers for the other two. The reason for that is something you will have to find out for yourself. The last one also has the one true story, meaning, the heaviest plot. This gives the game amazing replayability.

That is about the best I can give you. If this has not cleared things up for you regarding gameplay and such, I'd say you oughta simply look up a video and see for yourself. Try to minimize spoilers, however! So, to conclude my review, this game is heavily recommended by myself among others.
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2 of 2 people (100%) found this review helpful
63.3 hrs on record
Posted: January 9
Do you like ARPG, awesome story and don't mind anime style? Well, then this is what you have been searching for your whole life.

General Overview:
As you start the game, you can select between playing Hugo and Yunica. Hugo is like an SMG, you can spam your basic attacks like crazy, but is slower than a slowpoke. And Yunica has oven mittens... oh, and an axe, and is quite mobile. After that you can choose your difficulty, whereas nightmare really is a nightmare, and easy for Hugo players (yes, I hate him and I can't play him).
In this game, nightmare actually adds stuffs like attacks to the enemies, not just way more health and damage. Don't worry if you get stuck on a boss for 3+ hours in this mode.
Upgrading your character is also possible. You get small crystals which are your ingame-coins. In Nightmare every crystal is 1 point worth. In every other difficulty, I think, the bigger crystals give way more points.

The story:
The goddesses are nowwhere to be found on Ys. It's your job to go to the surface and find them. Of course, they are in the giant Darm Tower, the lair of the evil guys. Depending on which character you play, the story changes a bit. You get a few different bosses and other cutscenes. Due to this, you want to play it again, just to see how everything plays out for each character.
Overall, to leave it mostly spoilerfree: Each story had it's emotional part and was well thought-out.

Gameplay:
Hugo: Will make your hands hurt (You should map a key to autopress the shoot button 30x a second)
Yunica: Solid Movement, good attack speed, fun to play and mittens.
There are a lot of enemies. Some are just powered up versions of older enemies, others are completely new. Especially on Nightmare difficulty you have to be very carefully to choose how to deal with the enemy. Some are almost completely immun to your skills. Learing the patterns of your foes helps a great deal.

Setting:
You play in a huge tower. However, this doesn't mean the interior is all the same. Every time after one of the bigger bosses, the tower changes completely. One time you play with lava, the other time you play with sand and also mirrors!

Unlockables:
Yes, this game has unlockables. Once you complete the game with any character, you unlock something awesome and the boss rush mode. After you finish the game with every character, you get the arena mode and a shop. In the first you defeat enemies for points, which then can be exchanged for stuff in the latter one. The shop allows you to buy many things, like powered up spells, Hugo still sucks though.

Soundtrack:
Just listen to the trailer music. It's so awesome! The rest is also pretty good.

Long story short:
Buy it, so we get even more Ys on steam!
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2 of 2 people (100%) found this review helpful
32.1 hrs on record
Posted: January 14
No words can describe this masterpiece.
Epic combat system with challenging fights, interesting characters, FANTASTIC music with lots of unlockables and bonuses to make you spend lots of hours in this gem.

Highly recommended for all action/rpg fans!
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2 of 2 people (100%) found this review helpful
59.8 hrs on record
Posted: February 5
Ys Origin is an isometric rpg game that plays like a game you would see in the arcades very action oriented and fluid. in Ys you play as one of three selectable characters and go through their journey in order to help the goddesses fight off evil that dwells within the tower. Each character has their own dialogue and conflicts most notably the secret third character has a lot more bosses than the other two.

Progression

+Statues offer instant traveling back and forth
+Enemies are highlighted red to progress
+Grinding is minimum (10-15 minutes if you're underleveled)

Traveling from floor to floor can take some time, luckily you have goddess statues that teleport you instantly to other statues you have unlocked along your travels in the giant tower. This allows the player to be able to teleport to any floor he thinks requires more exploring weather its to grab a item he missed or simply to teleport back to floor 1 for upgrades. Not only that but you are fully healed when in range of the goddess statue, you can also save.

There is practically no grinding in this game if you do not skip mobs, even if you were somehow still underleveled its relatively quick to level to the proper tier for the boss. Grinding is not required in order to defeat bosses, it can be beneficial in order to survive more hits but dealing more damage only works on anything under the highest difficulty. Being on nightmare there is set amount of damage you are going to be able to do against any bosses. This is to keep the game challenging for the purpose of the difficulty mode so that players won’t find a easy way to accomplish the feat.

Red highlighted enemies are triggers to progress through the levels. For example killing a red highlighted knight can trigger a jumping platform so you can reach a certain area otherwise unavailable.

Level Design

+Nice variety of environments

Despite the entire game taking place in a giant tower there is a surprising variety of environments and design with their own elements that seperate how you proceed through them.

There is platforming but it never really gets too complicated to the point where you're constantly backtracking because you cannot perform the required jumps, its especially gets easier once you get helpful power ups like double jump.

Mechanics

+Multiple obstacles throughout the game solved with unique items
-Cinematics can interrupt your movement (Very Rare)

Going through the game you will find yourself often unable to past an obstacle that requires you to have a special item in order to proceed to the next floor. For example the item that helps with magic resistance will be useful for resisting the pull of statues trying to drag you down into a trap that sets you back to another floor and further away from your goal.

Cinematics interrupt your movement if you happen to be above a trap for example in water when you trigger a cinematic you will fall into the spike trap and take damage when you're able to move again

Game Modes

+Nice leaderboards (keeps track of alot of variables/characters)

Upon beating the game you will unlock more content for example the first time I beat it with Mittens, I unlocked time attack which features a circuit of going through all the bosses you fought throughout the game with set equipment and having to race the leaderboards in order to pass your friends.

Conclusion

YS origin feels like one of those old very challenging arcade games with rpg elements and some platforming. The features a nice variety of boss types, even more bosses can be discovered by playing the other characters which gives the game more replayability. The game lasts around 12 hours per playthrough and with 3 characters thats a good chunk of time not to mention you have extras to go through.
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3 of 4 people (75%) found this review helpful
7.1 hrs on record
Posted: November 13, 2014
-Wonderful Japanese Action Role-Playing Game.
-The game is beautiful and the controls work wonderfully. Perhaps a controller would be easier to navigate but so far the keyboard hasn't been too frustrating.
-The enemies all seem to be unique and pose different challenges.
-The boss battles are so far very well crafted and takes some skill... again easier with a controller.
-You unlock skills as you progress similar to how you would in say metroid... which I will mention because whenever you open a chest you get the wonderful metroid new upgrade sound effect.(That's what it sounds like to me!)
-Music sounds great and well done.
-Storyline so far is interesting and enjoyed the usage of the Sosarian Runes, which i know from the old Ultima games.. and is similar to Dwarven Runes from Lord of the Rings. All being based off of the Germanic languages. (So far not needed to know during the game, but provided some extra interest.)
-Great save point locations so you don't waste too much time from deaths.
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