The Guild 2 es el brillante sucesor del gran éxito de simulación de vida medieval, Europe 1400. The Guild 2 es una mezcla única de RPG y simulación de vida en un apasionante escenario de la edad media. El jugador y su grupo formarán parte de la historia e incluso la pueden alterar en tiempo real.
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Fecha de lanzamiento: 12 oct. 2006

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The Guild 2 es el brillante sucesor del gran éxito de simulación de vida medieval, Europe 1400. The Guild 2 es una mezcla única de RPG y simulación de vida en un apasionante escenario de la edad media. El jugador y su grupo formarán parte de la historia e incluso la pueden alterar en tiempo real.

¡Regresa al oscuro medievo y funda una nueva dinastía! ¡No te descuides, puesto que tus oponentes nunca descansan! Consigue una bella esposa y haz nuevos amigos... ¡controla tu vida! ¡Lega tus habilidades y tus descendientes lo apreciarán sobremanera!

Características Principales:

  • ¡La Edad Media cobra vida! Vive el fin de la edad media como nunca lo habías hecho en un fascinante mundo en 3D creado con pasión.
  • Todo ocurre en tiempo real. Pasea por las calles y observa por casualidad la ejecución de un prisionero o a un rico mercader que es atracado por uno de tus oponentes.
  • Aumenta tu poder. Conviértete en un mercader de éxito o en un astuto ladrón y observa cómo tu dinastía prospera o fracasa y contempla cómo tu familia disminuye.
  • Construye tu propio personaje. Las características de rol de última generación te permiten crear un personaje único y jugar en un grupo de hasta 3 miembros con distintas habilidades y debilidades.

Requisitos del sistema

    Mínimo:
    • SO: Windows® XP / Vista
    • Procesador: CPU a 2 GHz
    • Memoria: 512 MB de RAM
    • Gráficos: Adaptador gráfico compatible con DirectX9 y Pixel Shader 1.1
    • DirectX®: DirectX9
    • Sonido: Compatible con DirectX9
    Recomendado:
    • SO: Windows® XP / Vista
    • Procesador: CPU a 2.8 GHz o superior
    • Memoria: 1 GB de RAM
    • Gráficos: Adaptador gráfico compatible con DirectX9 y Pixel Shader 2
    • DirectX®: DirectX9
    • Sonido: Compatible con DirectX9
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Baskerville
( 44.1 h registradas )
Publicado el 12 de mayo
Guilds aren't even an important game mechanic/10.
inhumandarkness
( 1.7 h registradas )
Publicado el 7 de mayo
Really buggy, audo clips will jump between languages/genders, buttons don't always appear, if you leave the game window it pauses and doesn't always resume. A game based on trade and it doesn't even keep proper track of accounting. Do not suggest.
Crook
( 56.8 h registradas )
Publicado el 1 de mayo
Classic game. Build your medieval trading empire old school, from the ground up.
BW
( 2.1 h registradas )
Publicado el 14 de abril
This is a game that you can easily develope a love hate relationship with. A fairly solid economic strategy simulation where the player can utilize a number of varying tactics and maneuvers to gain an advantage in a well-designed medieval environment. Unfortunately, the impressive level of detail and the interesting gameplay options at your disposal take a backseat to the technical issues and repetitive micromanagement. It has a good tutorial but the gameply can become repetitive. No story mode and once you beat the game a couple times using different stratagies, it becomes stale. I enjoyed the game but without a story mode, I felt like I paid too much for it. So, because of that, unless it's on sale, I can't recommend the game.
ilikemyface3
( 4.0 h registradas )
Publicado el 30 de marzo
Dont' bother with this game just get The Guild II: Renaissance it's way better more bussines, maps, abilitys etc. playing this game after that playing The Guild II: Renaissance just feels like eating a gluten free cookie.
Not a filthy casual
( 2.4 h registradas )
Publicado el 16 de marzo
it took me 20 minutes to understand that this is a masterpiece, too bad no big company will ever make a game beautiful as this again.
Damn console ports, filthy lower attention span gamers, and damn houses that feed them with junk like CoD, AC, the new Fallouts, the new TeS, and so on.
I can't write a review but I can tell you that this is a masterpiece: get it at any cost!
SamwellD
( 20.1 h registradas )
Publicado el 7 de marzo
Surprisingly deep and interesting game. It has A LOT of weak points such as ugly graphics and weird bugs, but if you are able to see them more as a charming quality than a nuisance you are up for a lot of fun. You are able to play it however you wish, and it has fun trading, politics and combat aspects. I recommend playing it in multiplayer with your friends in local network. It is also very time consuming.

I perfectly understand why people don't like this game, since I hated it in the beginning too. But as I played with my friend in online I began to respect the game as it is and see the charm.

It is too much fun to follow the city counsil meetings when they swap languages almost mid-sentence.
EddyMalouBG[FR][BR]
( 0.4 h registradas )
Publicado el 3 de marzo
It's more easy to ♥♥♥♥ girls in this game than in real life

20/10 would bang more. -IGN

Marginal0
( 1.8 h registradas )
Publicado el 29 de febrero
*Based on an hour of play*

Game seems to have a couple of fun ideas, but the whole thing seems unpolished, so I stopped playing because there are better alternatives.
Vegan Guy
( 1.6 h registradas )
Publicado el 29 de febrero
i play this game offline so my hours are more like 50+
first of all this game takes a long time to get into, there is so much going on that you will likely start over a few times before you play through an entire game. some people like that in a game, as i do.
the guild II is a great concept executed in an enjoyable way.
you'll begin as a lowely merchant peddling your shoddy tongs or potions and eventaully climb the political ladder as your business grows beneath you, then you die.. but dont worry, you got a naive young rouge pregnant and have a family of theives and tavern owners.. great. you'll do fine.
TheLoneWolf
( 329.5 h registradas )
Publicado el 19 de febrero
Short and sweet: Love the game. Wish there was a new one with better graphics and character models. Annnnd not so glitchy and buggy. But yes a great game.
Desperalaw
( 16.4 h registradas )
Publicado el 19 de febrero
Begin with a man or a woman from your own dynasty and make him/her rule the kingdom !

This is basically what the main game is about, you begin as a small family then you try to prosper in order to become rich and known.

There are 4 differents professions or "classes" :
-The Patron
-The Craftsman
-The Scholar
-The Rogue

Each one of them have different ways to earn money and different abilities, so the gameplay isn't always the same thing.

Then you can acquire titles, to incease your influence on the villagers and politics.
Talking about politics, you can be elected as mayor if you do well.

Yup that's kinda a complete game.

Oh yeah, the graphics are old but still good, it doesn't make your eye bleed. The camera is also nice to control, except some little bugs but hey it's a game right ? Bug-free ? How ?

The only bugs I've personnaly encountered are animations bugs during dialogs or sometimes the person who follows you stays where you asked em, maybe they are thinking I don't know ^^

Well here comes the rating, I would personnaly give it a 15/20, it's complete, have a good gameplay and cool graphics.
It jus lacks some features that are in the standalone exapansion "The Guild 2 : Renaissance". Don't ask me why it's a standalone I don't know neither !

Finally, you can buy this game if you like simulations and streategy games, it's really worth it !
Gnoll
( 24.9 h registradas )
Publicado el 13 de febrero
This game is preety good, it is a medival game where you can choose to be a:
Patron - Produces & sells food to the town, can make farms, inns, and food shops.
Craftsman - Can craft stuff like: Armor, weapons, jewlery and metal-related items, carpentry, etc..
Rogue - Basically a thief, you can make a living out of robbing, or killing people... or both.
Scholar - It is that related to magic, alchemy, and churches.
The hardests anes are Rogue and Scholars, even though I have not played Scholar myself, the game points out it is one of the more complicated types.

You choose the place you want to settle at, every different, and uniqueness
There are 2 game types:
Single Player - TIme Limit, Missions, Dynasty, Extinction
Multiplayer - Dead.

Skaidrojumi
( 12.7 h registradas )
Publicado el 9 de febrero
Great game, very addicting.
Despite many comments saying the games buggy and unplayable I don't find that to be true. A few bugs but they all have work arounds and I certainly can play it without feeling I hit a dead end bug.
But it really gets you invested, as I almost shed a tear when the husband went home to die. And the anger I felt when enemies killed my son walking home to see his wife...I then killed them all...and not just the men. But the women, and the children. THEY'RE LIKE ANIMALS, AND I SLAUGHTERED THEM LIKE ANIMALS!...ugh darksides coming out.
8/10
Az
( 20.1 h registradas )
Publicado el 16 de enero
The Guild 2 is a Real Time Strategy game set in the Medieval Period. Essentially, the game allows the player to use a bunch of maneuvres and tactics to climb the social ladder. If you like games that reward you for playing strategically, than this is for you. It's a deep and intricate game that gives you the freedom to do what you want. However, don't expect it to be easy or lightweight, it requires patience and concentration. The game however has a few bugs which will probably not be patched since the game is pretty old and a new installment will be coming out in the near future. Despite this it's still playable and enjoyable for an old game.
!ExQrz
( 0.1 h registradas )
Publicado el 12 de enero
30 seconds into the game and ive already deleted it XD
alkemmy
( 0.3 h registradas )
Publicado el 10 de enero
This is like The Sims, set 600 years ago. Whilst its offers a big grapical upgrade over the original game, there's a sense of pointlessness about the gameplay itself. The tutorials have you yawning and losing interest quickly. This, I admit, is largely due to there being so many very much better games of a similar type around, and not to any inherant fault: it's an old game, and there's always a questioon mark when old games are revived for the current market. This wasn't exactly a smash-hit trend setter in its day, so the classic-retro card can't be played. There's nothing nostalgic about a game that merely occupies your time, doesn't entertain or amuse you. Unless you have time to waste, I'd suggest avoiding this and joining the classic-retro game queue at a much later date, with a more accompolished title.
Paradoxyc
( 1.1 h registradas )
Publicado el 6 de enero
Once there was an ugly barnacle

He was so ugly that everyone died

The end
Ace of Aces
( 2.0 h registradas )
Publicado el 3 de enero
I finally came to my last review. THIS GAME! UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHH! THIS GAME SUCKS!

The scripting is weird. I hired a Thug and she died right after I hired her. My Bakery was raided and destroyed right after I bought it. The guards are like the best trained guards in the world. The procreation is weird. "Hey let got to my chamber".
"Sure thing, sir"
Okay, back to the review, this game is so old and they made way to many remakes. The developers of this game are so greedy. They are so greedy they should be called Scrooge Productions.

This game is complete trash because I found it in the cheap games.

Just don't buy this game, trust me, I played it for like an hour an i finally realized how bad it is.

Torture Simulator 2008
nufcjw
( 2.4 h registradas )
Publicado el 30 de diciembre de 2015
Meh.
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it took me 20 minutes to understand that this is a masterpiece, too bad no big company will ever make a game beautiful as this again.
Damn console ports, filthy lower attention span gamers, and damn houses that feed them with junk like CoD, AC, the new Fallouts, the new TeS, and so on.
I can't write a review but I can tell you that this is a masterpiece: get it at any cost!
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Publicado el 26 de diciembre de 2015
Don't get me wrong, this game is great. Despite being very buggy, it's definitely worth it. the only reason I'm not recommending this is because you should buy "The Guild II Renaissance" instead. it is literally everything this game is and more, plus it is much more updated and thus, less buggy.
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Publicado el 9 de febrero
Great game, very addicting.
Despite many comments saying the games buggy and unplayable I don't find that to be true. A few bugs but they all have work arounds and I certainly can play it without feeling I hit a dead end bug.
But it really gets you invested, as I almost shed a tear when the husband went home to die. And the anger I felt when enemies killed my son walking home to see his wife...I then killed them all...and not just the men. But the women, and the children. THEY'RE LIKE ANIMALS, AND I SLAUGHTERED THEM LIKE ANIMALS!...ugh darksides coming out.
8/10
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This game is much better than reality because in this game I can tell my wife what to do and she'll listen.
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Publicado el 16 de enero
The Guild 2 is a Real Time Strategy game set in the Medieval Period. Essentially, the game allows the player to use a bunch of maneuvres and tactics to climb the social ladder. If you like games that reward you for playing strategically, than this is for you. It's a deep and intricate game that gives you the freedom to do what you want. However, don't expect it to be easy or lightweight, it requires patience and concentration. The game however has a few bugs which will probably not be patched since the game is pretty old and a new installment will be coming out in the near future. Despite this it's still playable and enjoyable for an old game.
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Publicado el 22 de agosto de 2014
lo recomiendo para pasar un buen, pero buen rato pegado al pc haciendo crecer tu dinastía en el modo Single-player, pero si no quieres enloquecer tratando de arreglar los problemas que son totalmente imposibles de solucionar no juegues multi-player, pierdes tiempo, te emocionas con tus amigos por la inmersión progresiva que te brinda el juego para que después de 2 horas halla "error de sincronización", se cuelgue la partida y no puedas hacer absolutamente nada al respecto, ni cargar la partida de nuevo, ni reiniciar el juego y las "soluciones" que hay en los foros casi muertos del juego, te van a bajar la moral mucho más, por que te muestran que a la compañía les importo un comino solucionar ese problema totalmente y el ultimo parche fue en el 2010, sin soluciones significativas.

pero el single-player es bueno, me agrada mucho, es un juego hecho con cariño, que te hace sentir agusto, tiene cosas incoherentes si, pero si solo lo juegas en single-player lo recomiendo.
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Definitivamente si no te llaman la atención el tipo de juegos lentos donde empiezas desde 0 y forjas tu imperio despues de ochomil quinientas ♥♥♥♥♥ horas este juego no es para ti, tiene muchas variables incluso cuando llegas a ser alcalde puedes manejar los impuestos del pueblo. muy completo aun que se tilda demasiado y también se bugea en ocaciones, las expanciones son la misma cosas asi que si lo quieres probar solo comprate la ultima, no es necesario tener las 3. de 10 le doy un 7 muy de panzazo.
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5.0 h registradas
Publicado el 30 de junio de 2014
Tras solo 3 horas de jugar y ya creo que tengo varios argumentos por los cuales no puedo recomendar este juego.

Tras un largo tutorial de casi 1 hora el juego parecia pintar bien, pero al empezar a jugar en serío ya no puedo decir lo mismo. Me hice un erudito (una de las cuatro profesiones disponibles) para participar por el lado diplomatico del juego y me encontre con demasiadas estupideces,como que es valido presentar la misma evidencia contra un NPC para hacer más grave su pena. La interacciones entre los NPCs son absurdas, en un juicio un NPC fue condenado a muerte y resulta con una respuesta de "Podría ser Peor".

Hay una opción que te permite construir edificaciones, pero es dificil definir cuando un terreno es propicio para construir.

Varias de las acciones del juego estan dadas por "cooldown", por ejemplo, con mi erudito no podia enfocarme a cortejear a una mujer porque solo tenia derecho a una acción (a pesar de haber varias), el juego constantemente me sacaba una alerta de que mi pareja se estaba sintiendo despreciada. Para complementar el sistema de cortejo el NPC objetivo va estar haciendo su rutina diaria por lo seleccionar aplicar y luego hacer clic sobre mientras se mueve es algo molesto, y se vuelve más molesto cuando este termina metido en un edificio al que no tienes acceso.

Las animaciones de los personajes son horribles y exageradas, inclusive para la epoca del juego. El manejo de los personajes es un tanto incomoda, si juegas en tiempo real es molesto tener que ubicar el NPC con el que quieres interactuar. El juego tiene "pausa táctica ", pero curiosamente se bloquean las interacciones en este modo (o cuando menos, los cursores no se actualizan).

Después de tratar con el Erudito intente con el artesano... y sencillamente no se como ganar rapidamente dinero porque todo lo tengo bloqueado y para ganar más dinero necesito comprar mejoras, pero también materias primas para crear mis productos, pero los precios en el mercado varian y a veces son mas costosos lo que reduce el margen de ganancias, lo que hace que sea demasiado demorado avanzar en el juego.

Aparentemente alguien tenia celos de mi modesto negocio, trato de arrazar mi negocio como tres veces, fui al tribunal y denuncie al agresor... según las evidencias mi agresor podría recibir hasta la pena de muerte, pero al final resulto siendo inocente y me toco que pagar una multa de 500 de oro... obviamente no soborne a nadie.

El juego me da la sensación de que es para jugarse de manera corrupta, es decir, si tratas de ser chico bueno vas a salir muy perjudicado porque todos los NPCs te van a odiar por ser honesto. siento que el juego te obliga a balancear tus niveles de corrupción para que los otros corruptos esten contentos y poder mantenerlos a raya mientras puedas librarte de ellos.

Sin duda son muchas incomodidades para solo el principio del juego, creo que lo probare un poco más a ver si le encuentro el lado positivo pero de momento, si lo quieres probar, que sea con un gran descuento porque por $10 dólares hay mejores cosas por ahi en que gastar el dinero.
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Publicado el 15 de mayo de 2012
Interesante
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81.9 h registradas
Publicado el 26 de noviembre de 2013
Don't let the Metascore fool you, this game plays better than its rating. This game is great for those who enjoy business and life sims, plus it's in the medieval times. I became addicted to this game because of its political mechanics, and how you rival other dynasties through out time (Through business trade, political regard, and even combat). I have played too many hours on the Guild 2 and the others in the bundle, and I'm always finding out new ways to do things. Does it have bugs? Yes. Is it pretty behind in terms of graphics? Yes. But to me, it's a really good game that I can spend 10 hours on in a row and not get tired of it. If you feel iffy about the game, then just get it when it's on sale. However, I highly recommend this game and The Guild 2: Renaissance and would say they are worth their standard price.
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Publicado el 24 de enero de 2015
Me and my bandit buddies, robbed some guy as he was walking through the countryside.

He then ran off to the courthouse to dob me in to the popo. On the day of my court hearing, I kidnapped the guy who dobbed me in, and then went off to my trial. The court denied, the case because the guy didn't show up to the trial he was started. The court fined him for wasting their time.

His wife then started a case against me for kidnapping. I didnt want to have two mouths to feed so I jst sent her on a long, permanent vacation.

She never showed up to the trial and I was let free again. The court then thought their family was the biggest bunch of ♥♥♥♥wits, and branded them as outlaws.

I let the guy go, and watched all the local town guards chase him and kill him.

I adopted their children, and made them watch me burn down their old house. Now they work on my slave camps, I mean farms.

10/10, would ruin lives again.
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20.3 h registradas
Publicado el 19 de junio de 2014
A dude from a rival dynasty killed my daughter. I went to the courts with evidence of this. On the day of the trial thugs beat me up and almost made me late. On arrival I found out all the jurors were of that same rival dynasty. They promptly declared the murderer innocent and made me pay a fine for wasting the court's time.

10/10
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29.7 h registradas
Publicado el 19 de julio de 2014
After Starting as a rouge and pillaging caravans, kidnapping people, breaking into houses, pick pocketing random people and burning down rivals buildings for sh**s and giggles i learned a valuable lesson ..

The court's are rigged cause i did absolutely none of the above.

9/10

Would/Will terrorize the countryside again.
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15.4 h registradas
Publicado el 26 de noviembre de 2013
This game is so underrated. If you google The Guild 2, you will be overwhelmed with negative comments about the buggy release. Most of these issues have been fixed, and the game is definitely playable. If you want to play multiplayer though, you will have to download some 3rd party software, as the multiplayer servers have been closed. Would reccomend.
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4.1 h registradas
Publicado el 25 de marzo de 2014
Jesus. Make your own merchantile empire, become a king, become a crimelord, be a simple farmer. you can do ANYTHING. there are so many things to do in this game you'll never finish learning how to move around this vast world. that might be a problem in the beginning, but once you learn the basic, the fun never stops.
The UI is very easy to read. you'll know what every button does in no time and will have complete control over your character's actions.
The music and voices are simple yet memorable. it helps the atmosphere a lot.
It's totally worth the prize. very nice game.
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2.6 h registradas
Publicado el 25 de noviembre de 2013
It has a learning curve. It REALLY has a learning curve.
But there's a ton of depth in this game. And if you're a fan of the Sims, Majesty, or both, you might enjoy this. It's difficult at times, but fun for fans of simulation games and medieval settings.
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3.9 h registradas
Publicado el 29 de octubre de 2014
Better than WoW guilds.


You buy a house and some slaves that get materials and craft a bunch of ♥♥♥♥, ship it to the market as you run down to the market to get some more materials but get slapped by some random woman you offended somehow. Take it to court and be massive wimp and they'll execute her so you can steal her position as a Jailor and randomly jail people and send them to the dungeon where they get whipped until they confess something. I dont remember if it worked on kids but i remember trying.

You'll atleast spend like 1-3 hours on this. I got it for free so I dont have alot to complain about. It's really strange and hard to understand in some way but If i spent more time with this I'd probably be able to explain better.

EDIT: It is buggy as hell too, mechanically its not impressive but its an interesting mix between shop management or something like that and some Sims elements. It's also a very difficult game in a sense, if it's on sale consider atleast if this is something you'd like to try out. Consider heavily though, as its still not an amazing game.
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18.6 h registradas
Publicado el 27 de octubre de 2014
Burned down the whole city as a priest
10/10
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Publicado el 15 de junio de 2014
It twas the 23 of august in the fine year 1684 the charing rouge sir fartletart woke up in a town unbeknowest to him. The first thing he did was kiss a nun... the nun then beat him to death.
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Really awesome game . The leaning curve and the complexity of this game is what makes it so unique and fun to play .The setting is original and the expansions add alot more to an already complete package .
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