What Ancients Begat is a complete (~15 hour) game of family generations surviving the rise of western civilization. Survival is the ultimate goal. The sub-goals, you choose, build their story. Experience an abstract telling of the lives of our earliest recorded ancestors.
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"An engaging combination of board game mechanics and pure storytelling, 7 Grand Steps is an addictive telling of one family's journey through history."
Gamespot

"...it’s so clever that you can’t help but love it."
Indie Statik

"7 Grand Steps hides a deeply strategic experience behind its deceptively simple and charming graphical appearance, ...immersive and engaging gaming."
GGS Gamer

"...entirely apart from the hundreds of games that have passed through my PC..."
Rock Paper Shotgun

"...I walked away from it as though I was telling a story that reached through time."
G4TV

"It's a simple looking game, but -- I found myself unable to stop."
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What Ancients Begat is a complete (~15 hour) game of family generations surviving the rise of western civilization. Survival is the ultimate goal. The sub-goals, you choose, build their story.


Experience an abstract telling of the lives of our earliest recorded ancestors. Part board game, part machine, part nod to computer games of yore, it begins with a simple mechanic. Spend tokens to traverse the wheel of life. Earn tokens by tempting the jaws of death. Then, like layers upon a pearl, game play expands, introducing fresh tactics and strategies which, turn by turn, drive a sophisticated, emergent narrative. How you play defines the lives of one family's generations through the changing ages.


An enormous tableau of ancient western culture awaits your exploration:


  • Core Mechanic - Back and forth tactics, across four social boundaries, to win legend points.
  • Family Strategy - Romance. Raise children. Rite of Passage.
  • Family Drama - Tales in the life. Sibling rivalry. Failed branches. Graveyard of ancestry.
  • Grand Legends - Earned over generations, they strengthen your family: Discoveries and Invention. Social Advancement. Heroics.
  • Ruling Games - City Administration. Warring Kingdoms. Imperial Senate.
  • The Challenges of an Age - Special for each social level. Survive and overcome, to enter a new age.

Системные требования

Windows
Mac OS X
    Minimum:
    • OS:XP
    • Processor:1GHz
    • Memory:1 GB RAM
    • Graphics:1024x768
    • Hard Drive:200 MB HD space
    Recommended:
    • OS:XP
    • Processor:1GHz
    • Memory:1 GB RAM
    • Graphics:1024x768
    • Hard Drive:200 MB HD space
    Minimum:
    • OS:10.5.8
    • Processor:1GHz
    • Memory:1 GB RAM
    • Graphics:1024x768
    • Hard Drive:200 MB HD space
    Recommended:
    • OS:10.5.8
    • Processor:1GHz
    • Memory:1 GB RAM
    • Graphics:1024x768
    • Hard Drive:200 MB HD space
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7 из 7 пользователей (100%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
10.9 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 16 октября
А вот очень "леворезьбовая" игра. Стратегия-менеджмент, тщательно замаскированная под настольную игру.

На первый взгляд, игра очень проста. Ты имеешь определённый запас фишек, и в свой ход либо их используешь, продвигаясь вперёд, либо делаешь новые. Твои имеющиеся таланты определяют шанс на те или иные фишки при создании - причём делать их с кем-то в несколько раз эффективнее, чем самому. Вдобавок, если делать их с женой, иногда получаются дети. :)

Через энное количество ходов наступает конец жизни, герой умирает от старости, но если ему повезло с детьми - дальше продолжают заниматься тем же самым уже они.

Но есть нюанс.

Во-первых, вы ходите не просто так. Часть полей имеют специальные бонусы, которые наращивают вам счётчик "квестов". А те, в свою очередь, могут приносить вам как долговременные, так и кратковременные бонусы. Самых заметных два - получение новых фишек с "открытиями" и продвижение в классе.

А чем выше класс - тем больше клеток - длиннее жизнь и больше возможностей.

Во-вторых, при появлении детей, вы управляете и их образованием. Пытаясь сбалансировать отношения между детьми так, чтобы никто не чувствовал себя обделённым (их дружба или вражда отразится на их жизни, если вы будете за них играть).

И в-третьих, по достижении максимального для данной эпохи класса начинается совсем другая игра. Вы должны, пользуясь имеющейся властью, привести к процветанию - племя, контору, армию, страну...

Разные эпохи имеют разные мета-игры. И тут уже разнообразие развёртывается вовсю. Лично я видел "добейся процветания, торгуя и воюя с несколькими странами" (ах, эта ностальгия и игра "Президент"!) и "добейся процветания, развивая религию" (этот я, впрочем, завалил).

Кроме "постоянных" квестов есть и более мелкие "текстовые" мини-квесты. К сожалению, я не закончил ни один, так что не знаю, что они дают в максимальном случае. Но успешно поучаствовал в завоевательных походах, развитии керамики и реформации религии. (погиб в процессе, но бонусы мне дали). И ещё несколько раз погиб в наводнении (ну почему я всегда выбираю неверные варианты?!)

Если герой погибает без наследников, надо сказать, игра откатывается назад, к предыдущему поколению, позволяя вам выбрать из имеющихся, ещё не отыгранных детей. Так что _совсем_ завалить игру хоть и возможно, но очень сложно.

В общем, рекомендую, если вам нравятся неспешные и необычные менеджменты.
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21 из 23 пользователей (91%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
12.1 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 18 августа
Slow to develop, and maybe a bit too repetitive after a bit, but plays nicely, and is not trivial to survive. Some neat long lasting effects from real decisions meant to represent daily struggles in ancient times. One for board game lovers, especially on sale.
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19 из 24 пользователей (79%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
3.0 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 18 августа
Fun game if you are looking something different. You have to pay attention and rely on a good amount of luck to win this one.
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15 из 17 пользователей (88%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
3.8 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 22 сентября
This "singleplayer board game" is damn surreal, and very complex, but weirdly compelling at the same time. Games go on so long you may never finish your first one, but you'll at least have enjoyed the time you spent.
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10 из 12 пользователей (83%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
4.3 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 13 ноября
I only have 4 hours in this game. Its an interesting boaard game with a slot machine based asthetic. Basically you get tokens on certain turns that allow your current family to get rewards by moving to designated areas on the 'board' (dial thingy). It is focused around the notion of continuity and progress of generations, wthin the context of family life. Though this is a little more elaborate and unique than the Game of Life, at full price its expensive. If you do find this on sale, for really cheap and you would like something to kill time then this might be for you...unless you hate reading, cos there is alot of it.
Note - If you are visually impared, you can still play this fine in windowed mode using windows magnifier. There is alot of reading though.
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9 из 11 пользователей (82%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
13.5 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 21 сентября
Eminently addictive and fairly deep despite being simple to play. There's probably a great boardgame hidden in this somewhere, but for the dearth of tokens it definitely benefits from not being one. The game could certainly use a bit more to do in some areas and the events tend to repeat a bit often between consecutive generations, but on the whole it's just a great "one more turn" type deal.
Talking about deal: Wait until it's on sale or in a Humble Bundle. I doubt I'd be as happy about it if I had paid $20 for it.
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6 из 7 пользователей (86%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
3.1 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 28 августа
I kind of have mixed feelings about this game. I would give it 5/10. Good, playable, but with serious drawbacks.

Upsides:
It does give you a strangely epic feeling - you do feel like a part of history itself, looking at stories of families not at the level of each individual, but ultimately, for the entire family bloodline, as a whole. I would say that this epicness is the most unusual part about this game, which no other games I've ever played offers.
The graphics and music is also not bad for a game of its size.

Downsides:
The biggest problem is the disconnect between player's choices and their consequences, and the lack of any coherent logic as to how and why to make decisions. For example, when your family is facing a crisis of the age, you are given 4 questions, each with 4 choices - and after you choose all 4 answers, you kind of get a "score" on how you did. But there is absolutely no prompts as to why one answer may or may not be correct - and the worst answer kills your character outright, and the previous 2-3 hours of your gameplay is wasted. What the hell?! This happens in other places too...

To make this even worse, there's no SAVE functionality in this game - just Pause/Continue. I understand that history cannot be rewinded, and that decisions are decisions. It makes sense, but this is a game, for people to play. It is not meant to punish the player harshly. If the character you control dies, you lose your previous 2-3 hours of progress; If all you characters of the current generation dies, you are dead. Your game progress is completely erased. What the hell?!

Overall, I like this game for what it's good for, but I hate it for what it's bad for. I'm not playing it again.
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4 из 4 пользователей (100%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
13.4 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 29 ноября
Brief Synopsis:

7 Grand Steps: What Ancients Begat is a game made essentially by one man (he outsourced music and art assets, I believe). Originally, this game was meant to be part of a seven part series. The developer has mentioned however (in early 2014), that the second step (game) won't be coming for "several more years".

The game is stylized after the old coin games in which you insert a coin into a machine which triggers movement. Game play is relatively simple to understand, but is complex enough so that there is a layer of strategy involved.

The game is relatively simple. Through the use of coins and choices made during game play, you influence a family through the ages, determining how educated the children become and how powerful the family becomes. Play the game right, and your family could end up ruling over their city as high priest or even king.

Long Review:

Story: You start in the bronze age as a new family. Throughout the game, you'll be presented with story cards through which you can sometimes influence the fate of your family. There are several Ages through which you must progress in this game. Each Age follows several generations of your family. Some generations manage to reach high society while some struggle to survive as simple peasants. The story cards are very samey throughout a given Age, which can make the game a bit boring at times.

Graphics: The art assets are very well done in this game. Similar to the story cards, there aren't many different assets, but that's to be expected, given what the game itself is a relica of (old fashioned coin fed theatric game machines).

Music/Sounds: The music and sounds in What Ancients Begat are superb and really add a lot to the overall ambience and immersion of the game. They're not over done, but are instead rather subtle, which is exactly what a game like this needs to make it shine.

Length: According to the forums, the length of this game varies according to each person's play style. Some people manage to finish the game in less than 5 hours, while others take closer to 15 hours to reach the end. Personally, I got about 13 hours worth of play time.

Replayability: There is a bit of replayability in this game. In my opinion, it's well worth playing through at least twice, as the first time can be seen as an opportunity to learn the mechanics and work out a viable strategy for the second playthough.

Overall, I recommend that you purchase this game if you enjoy simple, historical, slow paced games with strategical elements and few art assets. It's definitely worth getting on sale, if nothing else.
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7 из 10 пользователей (70%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
1.6 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 23 ноября
Ehh... this is really bare-bones for a $20 game, first of all. No animations, minimal art, practically a basic flash game.

Presentation aside there still isn't much I found myself liking. It's a board game with a heavy strategy element, but far too heavy on luck elements as well. I felt pretty clueless playing at first, and doing the tutorial again/reading all the info helped a little but it stilll felt rather overwhelming with how little control I had towards the game's outcome. It's not very engaging, either, rather tedious without much to actually do. Drag tokens, hope you get a decent amount of tokens from ingots, read the occasional piece of story that you may have already seen before even without only 90 minutes of play time. Just not enjoyable. There's probably a crowd for this game but it certainly isn't me. Fortunately this game was in a humble bundle, I'd never buy it otherwise even at 80-90% off.
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3 из 3 пользователей (100%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
7.9 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 27 ноября
The mechanics are unique, which makes learning them a lot of fun.

There just isn't a lot of depth or quite enough going on to really keep you coming back.

Worth a spin at a discount.

3/5
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4 из 5 пользователей (80%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
21.6 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 10 октября
What a strange and fascinating game...that was literally my first thought when playing this game and it still accurately describes what i think of it now. Even after 20+ hours of gametime I cannot think of many other experiences as unique and interesting as 7 Grand Steps.

But is it fun? Yes...if you are into this sort of gameplay...which I now realize is probably difficult to pinpoint the audience for this game. It is probably most accurately described as a storytelling boardgame that lets you build generations of your family trying to achieve advantages to overcome "challenges of the age," which are basically disaster events that wipe out most everyone but you (if you pull it off). Strangely enough, the gameplay sort of simulates the constant struggle of trying to stay ahead in society and still provide a better future for your children (basically by teaching them better than you were tought). It works extremely well at keeping a feeling of tension and accomplishment throughout, and I found it pretty addicting. It is definitely a game that warrants a few hours each time you play instead of one to two hours.

However, my biggest complaint with the game is...the sequel. Or rather the very low chance of getting one. I would LOVE to see this game continue, and I really hope it sees more attention.
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6 из 9 пользователей (67%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
4.9 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 28 октября
This was enjoyable for a few hours and then started to get tedious.

The gameplay mechanics are unique, and the board game component is kind of fun.

One of the goals of the game - to progress between layers of society - seems achievable at first, but as you move on it starts to feel more random and futile. This may be true to life, but it doesn't make it enjoyable.

At the higher levels of the game there are more elements to manage, like economics or defense, but these seemed less fleshed out than the board game part. Maybe I didn't give it a fair go.
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2 из 2 пользователей (100%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
17.3 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 5 октября
Haunting, kind of depressing , ..you get a real sense of urgency to try and elevate your family standing when you are getting on in years. Very, very different and worth it just for the unorthodox and unusual gameplay
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3 из 4 пользователей (75%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
12.9 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 23 сентября
Tl;dr: Weird but evocative.

An interesting game that plays pretty much like a cross between a board game and a poker machine. The basic idea is that you try and elevate your family through ancient society to accept challenges related to technological discovery, prestige and heroism by gathering tokens and using them to advance yourself while educating your children - heavy stuff for what looks like on the surface to be a casual puzzle game.

Some people have an issue with the random number generator suddenly throwing your family back amongst the peasants through misfortune, but I feel it encapsulates the idea of struggle - and once you get a feel for the best strategy you can reduce the likelihood of that happening. In one instance, the parents played favourites too often so the next generation was plagued by a sibling rivalrly when my useless brother kept stealing my tokens.

If you get to the top rung it opens up another game-within-a-game depending on the era, at one point I was a general (and was really bad at it), on another playthrough I got to play senator with all the powerplays and shenanigans that involves.

All the individual game elements are pretty basic but they form a quite evocative experience, much of this down to the excellent writing of the challenge scenarios. I should note that this is apparently the first of a series of games, so this particular episode stops kind of abruptly after a few eras with a "to be continued" placard. Even so, you might start off thinking it's a bit lame but then hours later...
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3 из 4 пользователей (75%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
3.0 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 30 октября
Digital board game of sorts. No real victory condition, gets kind of grindy after a while, but is nonetheless innovative and a great, novel experience.
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2 из 3 пользователей (67%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
12.9 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 23 сентября
Tl;dr: Weird but evocative.

An interesting game that plays pretty much like a cross between a board game and a poker machine. The basic idea is that you try and elevate your family through ancient society to accept challenges related to technological discovery, prestige and heroism by gathering tokens and using them to advance yourself while educating your children - heavy stuff for what looks like on the surface to be a casual puzzle game.

Some people have an issue with the random number generator suddenly throwing your family back amongst the peasants through misfortune, but I feel it encapsulates the idea of struggle - and once you get a feel for the best strategy you can reduce the likelihood of that happening. In one instance, the parents played favourites too often so the next generation was plagued by a sibling rivalrly when my useless brother kept stealing my tokens.

If you get to the top rung it opens up another game-within-a-game depending on the era, at one point I was a general (and was really bad at it), on another playthrough I got to play senator with all the powerplays and shenanigans that involves.

All the individual game elements are pretty basic but they form a quite evocative experience, much of this down to the excellent writing of the challenge scenarios. I should note that this is apparently the first of a series of games, so this particular episode stops kind of abruptly after a few eras with a "to be continued" placard. Even so, you might start off thinking it's a bit lame but then hours later...
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3 из 5 пользователей (60%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
5.5 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 2 сентября
If the title wasn’t a glaring red flag for you, here’s a tip: this game is really ♥♥♥♥ing weird. There is not a single part of the entire process of playing this game that is not unusual in one way or another. Reading through the story creates a great sense of unease which would normally be obtained by talking to a cult member, or perhaps a diehard conspiracy theorist. The game also requires you to click and drag a coin into a slot to do pretty much anything. I only wish I had found the “Quit” slot sooner.
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16 из 19 пользователей (84%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
23.4 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 26 ноября, 2013
Первые часы игра может быть интересной, так как ты изучаешь ее возможности и находишь что-то новое, но потом она станет слишком однообразной, появление нового геймплея на правящем уровне обрадует: «Наконец-то что-то новое!» — но ненадолго. Небольшое разнообразие внесет конечно и смена веков, но как только ты обратишь внимание на часы, ничего хорошего про нее добавить не захочется. Все слишком монотонно и скучно. События случайные и заработанные собиранием очков постоянно повторяются, выбора часто не бывает, так как дается один по характеру персонажа.

А сложность… о, блин, такой хардкор>< Отсутствие системы сейвов приводит к тому, что небольшой фейл заставит тебя играть часа два, чтобы прийти к тому месту, с которого фейлнулся. Но одно дело, когда ошибку сделал игрок и расплачивается за нее, перепроходя задание, совсем другое, когда у игры генератор случайных чисел сработал так, что исход эвентов отбросил его далеко назад. В этой игре чаще бывает второе. Вместе с однообразностью это заставляет лезть на стену со скуки, особенно если решить попробовать дойти до самого конца, чтобы узнать правда ли так будет всю игру.

В общем, я совсем не понимаю, как такая игра могла пройти гринлайт. В нем есть гораздо лучше игры, которые так его и не прошли. Игра не годится ни как времеубивалка, ни как полноценная игра. В ней можно покидать монетки в пазы час-два, но лучше поискать что-то более интересное.

Впервые опубликовано: http://squarefaction.ru/game/7-grand-steps/blog/11534
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13 из 22 пользователей (59%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
8.3 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 19 декабря, 2013
Клёвые семечки, потратила несколько часов на однотипное действие — помещение монетки в отверстие, лол. Доставляло, но затем надоело. Даже странно, что так быстро. Но играла не отрываясь первые несколько раз, игра потраченные деньги оправдала.
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4 из 7 пользователей (57%) посчитали этот обзор полезным
4.5 ч. в игре
Опубликовано: 15 июня, 2013
Игра шикарна) Но нужно знать анг хотябы немного, чтобы понять суть :) Тут немного объясняют как играть https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP1Ji7FXKYA
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