黑暗正逐漸壟罩中土世界,第三紀中最強大的軍隊養精蓄銳準備迎接即將來臨的戰爭。您將成為史上最偉大奇幻史詩鉅作中最強的英雄與反派角色,投身戰火叢生的中土大陸。
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發售日: 2013 年 08 月 29 日

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"黑暗正逐漸壟罩中土世界,第三紀中最強大的軍隊養精蓄銳準備迎接即將來臨的戰爭。您將成為史上最偉大奇幻史詩鉅作中最強的英雄與反派角色,投身戰火叢生的中土大陸。

Guardians of Middle-earth 是忠實呈現中土世界的多人線上戰鬥競技場遊戲 (MOBA)!可在史詩般的遊戲設定中,與多達 10 位玩家一起進行五對五的多人戰鬥競技場策略對戰。快來呼喚「魔戒」與「哈比人歷險記」中的傳奇英雄和反派角色一同加入您的獨特聯盟,參加這場前所未有的 MOBA 體驗!"

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    • 作業系統: 32-bit: Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8
    • 處理器: Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.4 GHz | AMD Athlon X2, 2.8 GHz or better
    • 記憶體: 2 GB 記憶體
    • 圖像: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS | AMD Radeon 3850 or better
    • DirectX: 版本:10
    • 網路: 寬頻網際網路連線
    • Storage: 8 GB 可用空間
    • Additional Notes: Windows XP and DirectX® 9.0c and below not supported
    建議配備:
    • 作業系統: 64-bit: Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8
    • 處理器: Intel Core i5 750, 2.67 GHz | AMD Phenom II X4 965, 3.4GHz or better
    • 記憶體: 4 GB 記憶體
    • 圖像: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 | AMD Radeon HD 6950 or better
    • DirectX: 版本:11
    • 網路: 寬頻網際網路連線
    • Storage: 8 GB 可用空間
    • Additional Notes: Windows XP and DirectX® 9.0c and below not supported
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Thumaz
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張貼於:07 月 19 日
The game is dead, dont buy it.
Battleborn is more alive than this.
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Permastun
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張貼於:07 月 15 日
The MOBA/ARTS genre has exploded over the last few years. With Heroes of the Newerth, the original DotA, League of Legends and Dota 2. Now Monolith and Warner Brothers have decided to get in the fray, with Guardians of Middle-earth, a Lord of the Rings themed MOBA/ARTS game for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3(and now PC...) If you were ever afraid that a DotA style game would be dumbed down when brought to a console, I can say that your fears are unfounded. Guardians of Middle Earth is anything but dumb, in fact it's quite deep.

In Guardians, you get the typical 3-lane 6-tower map setup from a top down perspective. Exactly what you’d expect in any MOBA. A mix of upgrades for towers and buff shrines in the jungle area, between the lanes, that your team can capture. Each shrine increases a teams health regen, allowing you to stay in lanes longer, which you need to do to gain XP. While there is a single lane map I’d advise against playing it. It devolves into rage quits quite often, which ruins the experience.

There are no item or gold mechanics in the individual matches, nor is there any last hitting required. These meta game elements are Call of Duty style loadouts and unlocks from experience and gold gained for completing matches. The amount of individual loadouts are gated by your account level. The items used within are gated by gold. You buy gems, potions, and relics from the in-game shop using gold. This is a way of specializing your loadouts to meet certain needs across any character. This whole area of the game is way too large to go over extensively in a review. Suffice to say, the depth and variety in loadouts is immense.

The in-match skill mechanics are more to do with team work and map awareness than twitch reflexes. Movement controls with the left thumbstick. Attacks control with the right thumbstick for directional aim. Your characters face around a 360 degree axis. Your facing will also change with your movement. Holding the right stick will override the left stick’s facing controls. Allowing you to strafe and backpedal. A ring is drawn around your character showing your attack range, area of attack(usually a cone), and directional facing. It works well most of the time, but there are situations where you can’t tell if you’re hitting your target or not.

Using abilities can be frustrating. You get the same ring shaped hud element for each targeted skill. These skills assign to the face buttons. I don’t know about you but I don’t have the dexterity to hit the A-button and use the right stick at the same time. You will usually end up having to aim with your movement and be careful enough not to run too far while attacking. It’s not ideal but there is a certain level of acquired skill in doing it.

One nifty feature borrowed from Monday Night Combat is upgrading towers. Towers are upgraded by all players so long as they are a certain in-match level. Each of the 4 upgrade types need different minimum levels in order to apply. The creep waves are altered in the same fashion by upgrading a barracks found behind each lane’s second tower. These barracks are immune to attack until the towers in front of them are destroyed. Upgrading the barracks allows the creep wave to concentrate on different styles of pushing. Heavy siege units break enemy towers or front line fighters hold the enemy from being able to push to your base. It’s a great strategic mechanic that more games in the genre could enjoy.

The Guardians are ripped straight from the pages of Tolkien's classic. They range from the bastion of good himself, Gandalf the Grey. To the epitome of evil, Sauron. And a few other notable characters like Gollum and Legolas. Each Guardian fits a different archetype and role, that create what could be a diverse meta-game. Only time and community will decide how competitive the game becomes.

As for the community and player interaction: there doesn’t seem to be a lot going on in that department, at least within the game. Most players don’t seem to wear their headsets, which is a blessing and a curse at the same time. My time spent with the game has been rage and troll free, but just about every match has had someone disconnect or leave. It’s unfortunate, and I’ve yet to win a game short handed or lose a game with a numbers advantage. Luckily, queue times were short and lasted only about 2-3 minutes.

There isn’t much else to say. The character design is great and borrows from the films and the sound is pretty top notch too. The graphics are as good as you’ll find on current-gen systems, if not a bit muddied. The gameplay though is the core of the experience. If you’re looking for an easy way to get yourself into the genre, Guardians of Middle-earth is one of the best chances you have.

Too bad it's completely dead on arrival for PC.
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Sugi
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張貼於:07 月 10 日
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scypQ4J3FJg
Warner is Back, this time they don´t want your money (Yeah right..)
In short the game is bit of a cashgrab, there is nobody playing the game and the overall gameplay is subpar compared to other competition. Only good thing i can say is that u can play with mouse + keyboard or controller, but no point buying the game since developers abandoned it. Balance and everything is absolutely horrible about this game, i feel sorry for everyone whose going to waste any penny on this game.
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V. De Luca
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張貼於:07 月 7 日
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TrapGod
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張貼於:06 月 26 日
NO ONE is playing online anymore,and I strongly agree with all the other reviews screaming "Missed potential!"...It hurts to say so,but currently this game is total ♥♥♥♥ unless a miracle happens and the dev team is brought back from the dead to try and fix their sins,so it isn't worth buying!
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Farmer Maggot
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張貼於:06 月 25 日
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Roo
( 1.4 記錄時數 )
張貼於:06 月 9 日
steamdb says this is the lowest rated game in my library. I have no recollection of purchasing this, so I'm gonna assume I got it from a humble bundle. Apparently, it took less than an hour and a half to get all the cards, so thats good.
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Muad'Dib
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張貼於:06 月 3 日
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LUMPY
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張貼於:05 月 20 日
It was better than the star wars holiday special.
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r h y m e z..
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張貼於:05 月 14 日
terrible
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張貼於:07 月 10 日
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scypQ4J3FJg
Warner is Back, this time they don´t want your money (Yeah right..)
In short the game is bit of a cashgrab, there is nobody playing the game and the overall gameplay is subpar compared to other competition. Only good thing i can say is that u can play with mouse + keyboard or controller, but no point buying the game since developers abandoned it. Balance and everything is absolutely horrible about this game, i feel sorry for everyone whose going to waste any penny on this game.
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張貼於:06 月 26 日
NO ONE is playing online anymore,and I strongly agree with all the other reviews screaming "Missed potential!"...It hurts to say so,but currently this game is total ♥♥♥♥ unless a miracle happens and the dev team is brought back from the dead to try and fix their sins,so it isn't worth buying!
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1.0 記錄時數
張貼於:2014 年 04 月 4 日
10/10 It Exists -IGN

Tired of plain old fully functioning sensible MOBAs with strong controls and some form of accessibility?
Tired of boring old precise mouse movements without a hint of unnecessary acceleration?
Are you bored of tooltips with a solid explanation of the skill in question?
Would you rather have cameras that don't pan in a sensible fashion and move when you point your mouse at the minimap?
Do you despise interesting and well-thought-out character and skill design?
Do you really love it when you just paid money for a broken-down version of the Ferrari you could have tried out for free across the street?

If you answered yes to any of the aforementioned questions, then this game is for you!
Features Include:
-Broken Mouse Precision
-Generic, Messily-Constructed Tooltips
-Awkward Camera Movement That Basically Forces You To Lock To Your Character
-Characters Which Come From The Lord of the Rings Lore (well thank goodness)
-Like Most Excellent Established MOBAs, It's FREE! (with the payment of $20 + Additional Cost If You Want To Have The Full Content Without Hours of Playtime)

If you're anything like me, you love the Lord of the Rings Franchise and the mechanics of MOBA gameplay.

And you'll love this ga-

I can't.

I just.

I-

Please kill me.
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3.2 記錄時數
張貼於:2015 年 11 月 13 日
Multiplayer is dead. You can play only in training and tutorial.
3/10
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0.7 記錄時數
張貼於:2014 年 07 月 5 日
This game is alot like masturbating. Nobody is going to do it with you, and after you're done, you're left with an empty feeling inside.
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3.4 記錄時數
張貼於:05 月 2 日
Dead game, no players. Don't waste your money.
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0.6 記錄時數
張貼於:2013 年 11 月 25 日
I´ve seen a lot of bad MOBAs, but this, this takes the cake. I see no reason to play this pay-to-win game when there are so many great MOBAs out there for free. I encountered heavy Lag issues when playing against other people, cant get heros without paying money (except a small starting pool) and even as a Lord of the Ring fan, i was dissapointed about the loveless implemetation of the chararcters. To sum it up: NOPE
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4.3 記錄時數
張貼於:02 月 15 日
It was a good game when it first came out but the community is dead as of right now. No point in buying it.
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9.3 記錄時數
張貼於:2013 年 11 月 25 日
Do not buy this game. It was terrible on the consoles, and it did not improve on the PC. Since it started, I still cannot join a match with a full complement of other human players. Most of my games are against bots only. More to the point, DOTA 2 is superior in every way to this game, and that game is for free. I see no reason to spend money on this travesty of a MOBA.
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21.5 記錄時數
張貼於:2015 年 04 月 14 日
In all honesty this game should have been great, and a long time ago when it was first released this game was actually great. Released on the Consoles in 2012, this game was a well polished and much needed intorduction to the MOBA gameplay concept to console players.

The developers were fast and transparent. The community was alive and everyone was happy. Somehow the development team slowly changed from being fast and transparent to being non existent and deceitful..

It started with the release of one character, Snaga, he spelled the downfall of this glorious game. Somehow his release saw a magnitute of glitches and bugs which made the game unplayable, and until that point hadn't existed. Speed bugs, and gold mode bugs and everything imbetween.

The developers spent the next few months trying and failing to find a fix for the issues caused by Snaga's release. They released the remaining DLC characters and then went into hibernation mode.

This brings us to the PC release, a new Developer at the helm Zombie studios.. promises were made of fixing all the issues which plagued the Console release and and saw the once great community decimated.

Fast forward almost 2 years later and the PC game is a virtual graveyard. The game priced at 19.99 is unappealing to new gamers, and the gamers who already own it just flat out have no reason to play it. If you could write a book on missed potential GOME would be it.

The gameplay itself is really nice, the characters counter each other fairly well, no one character is super OP, the controls and movements are smooth. The learning curve isn't bad at all, and last but not least you can play as the well known Middle Earth characters.. With that said, I would avoid this game like the plague, if you already own it, idle those cards and remove it from your harddrive, if you don't own it, consider yourself lucky.
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