Valve doesn't listen to the playerbase.
Valve doesn't test updates.
Valve doesn't communicate with the playerbase.
Valve doesn't know the game their updating.
Valve doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about TF2.
Valve abuses their cult following and makes ♥♥♥♥♥♥ updates.
Valve uses TF2 to scrape up more money for ♥♥♥♥♥♥ updates.
Valve doesn't care about TF2.
Valve admitted to not communicating properly with their players.
Valve then underwent radio silence.
Valve heard that an item was OP and ruining games for over seven months.
Valve later buffed this weapon.
Valve finds an item that is perfectly balanced in its usage, and never received complaints.
Valve nerfs the item until it is no longer usable.
Valve saw that the Phlog was seen as an issue more often than not in it being a bit OP, but not too much.
Valve buffed the item extremely.

TF2 has gone to ♥♥♥♥. I won't recommend it until they fix the mess they created, even then, I doubt they'll take responsibility for being absolutely ♥♥♥♥ at keeping their own game updated properly.

I'm sure I'll get told "dood you're too hard on vulve' or 'it's a hard job you try it.'

Screw that.

I know making video games is hard. I work in a Deli, you think I know how to do anything more than basic programming?

But I ♥♥♥♥ing do my job. I do what I'm told and go above and beyond in serving the customer. When someone tells me I did something incorrectly I don't look at them blankly and ignore their existence and proceed to make the same error for seven months, I ♥♥♥♥ing fix my mistake and apologize.

You can't have a good relationship with your playerbase when you ignore every single piece of criticism.

First of, Valve. The communication between you and the community is really bad. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it and it really needs to be fixed. It shouldn't be that much of a problem for you to take 1 hour or 2 each week to go through some of the most popular reddit or community hub discussions and respond to at least some of them. It would have a positive effect, unlike the silent treatment you've been giving us for the past few years which are negatively impacting how we see Valve and their employees.
Next, we really need some way to know what sort of changes you want to put into the game before it is released. It wasn't uncommon that you've made some changes to which the community reacted in a negative way and you had to change it back or modify it several times until the thing being changed wasn't anything like it used to be before.
Take, for instance, the dreaded Phlogistinator. The whole mess with giving it invurnerability on taunt could've been avoided if there was some communication going on between you and the community. You had to change the weapon several times until things finally went quiet. And in the end it may actually be worse than what we had before any of these changes. Most recent unnecessary changes were changing the Righteous Bison. I don't think I need to tell you that that was a huge mistake as the weapon is not really usable anymore in the way it was before. It's a gimmick now. What strikes me as really odd and a bit frustrating is the change log which claimed that the weapons ability to hit the same player multiple times was a bug... No, no it wasn't a bug. It was right there in the loading screen tips saying that it's this weapons ability and no one really had an issue with that weapon. In several years of playing this game I haven't had an issue with that nor did I ever hear anyone have an issue with it.
I won't go further into why some changes were bad or why some may be good, people have already written about it better than I can, but I think everyone agrees that we need to hear about the changes before they happen to avoid bad choices.
It really started rough, and I don't think anyone will forget the half an hour to an hour long wait for a game any time soon. Luckily the wait time has dropped down significantly, but it could use a bit more work.
The complete removal of quick play is honestly a mistake, some people really liked being able to pop in and out of any game whenever they wanted, and that was probably one of the go to reasons to play TF2 for some.
While casual matchmaking is nice if you want to play a game which is a bit more organized while not having the seriousness of the competitive, it's not always as fun as silly quickplay used to be. You've basically forced everyone into the casual matchmaking in order to give us more organized games where players could work to win... but you've also forced everyone else who doesn't want to play that way into the same room.
In short, keep the matchmaking, but bring back quickplay.

An issue that I had with matchmaking is that the party system limits you to only 6 players. This really sucks if I have more than 5 friends (which I do) so one of us cannot play with the rest. Additionally, not being able to jump into the game your friends are playing ruins the experience further, though this is a bit trickier than the party problem.
It isn't all bad however, the party system and matchmaking do allow at least 6 of us to have a guaranteed place on the same team so no one has to sit out while hoping that someone leaves the server and opens a spot for them.
Addendum: The game can now start with less than 24 players, which should lower the wait time. Players can fill in the spots as they become available. It's certainly much better than to match people into servers that are too far away from them.
So the beta has come and gone and I can't get over the feeling that the feedback you guys got from the players was ignored. I tried it during the beta and again after release, and it feels pretty much the same. And it's not really good. In the beta I could forgive a lot of stuff because it is indeed the beta, but we all expected a reasonably polished system on launch. However our expectations weren't really matched with your delivery. The system often matches wildly different ranks, there's nothing stopping completely new and clueless players from joining and quite frankly causing others to lose because they had to carry them. And this has happened, I've seen a few players who didn't know what to do and I've read other peoples stories, including one where one of the guys actually just installed the game.
Perhaps you should limit the competitive to those who had played in the casual matchmaking for some time and leveled to a certain level, kind of like in CS:GO?
Also the current way system works is seriously flawed. If someone leaves, the winning team just wasted their time playing for nothing and the losing team loses nothing. The person who left only has to wait 30 minutes before doing it again and they also don't get any loss to their rank either.
This issue needs to be your top priority.
According to the latest update on 28th of July, the penalties for leaving have been made harsher. This is a welcome change, however, as how it works, or if it works properly, we will see. Currently it works by having longer cooldowns for the first offenders with low number of games played.
However no word on the issue with winning team wasting their time while the losing team gets no loss if someone leaves the game at any point.
Addendum: FOV slider has been brought back (up to 70), now Valve did say they fixed some of the broken animations related to those FOVs, but people have been reporting issues with some animations and animations in min viewmodel mode. Guess we're not wrong in saying that valve doesn't play their own game.
One more thing. The performance issues really need to be sorted. It's weird that a game from 2007 can sometimes bring a modern computer to only 60 frames on certain official maps.
Now the fact that it brings a modern PC to this means that a PC that's weaker but still should, in theory, play the game smoothly doesn't actually go smooth in practice.
Admittedly a lot of this is from so many things being tacked onto the game in the past 9 years, but still warrants fixing to at least some degree.

I think I'm going to wrap this up here.
In short, communicate more, talk more about upcoming changes and have a testing ground for people to see how it works and to give feedback, bring back quickplay, allow larger parties, fix the issues with competitive outlined above.
And please, enough with the cosmetics, people really want functional items. The last 3 years were really disappointing and the only updates that are more or less good are the ones that brought us new functional items or new game mechanics (like picking up the weapons of your fallen friends or foes from the Gun Mettle which was a better update).

That's it from me, have a lovely 2016 year. Cheers.

Edit: Overall there's been some "nice" changes, but nothing good enough. More info about changes are on TF2's website.

You were good son, real good...maybe even the best.
















Then valve decided to ♥♥♥♥ it up

• https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/138912701/badplayerslain.txt
  
  
  2 bad updates a year
  
  
• dev team doesn't even play the game, nor do they communicate with the community at all
  
• its been almost 2 years since the last weapon release, which were boring, uninspired, and offered nothing new to the game
  
• truck loads of more bad cosmetics and skins that don't fit TF2's art style in the slightest
  
• tons of high quality, well-designed weapons that have been the highest rated since the steam workshop's inception still not in the game
  
• overhyped and barely functional "competitive mode" (that you have to pay for if you don't give steam your phone number) that should have been added years ago
  
• mvm left to rot for years
  
• medieval mode left to rot for even longer
  
• unusuals, australiums, and other cancerous bling items
  
• random crits are still a thing
  
• community servers completely unpopulated because of quick play
  
• end of the line was awful because valve wouldn't let them add anything meaningful, which set the standard for future community "updates"
  
• you can no longer join valve servers through the server browser
  
  
  bugs, horrible optimization, and major game balance issues lingering for years on end
  
  
• it took 5 years to nerf the degreaser
  
• it took almost 5 years to fix being able to store the gunslinger's 3rd punch by hitting teammates (minor and situational bug, yes, but this is just one example of bugs taking ages to fix)
  
• sv_pure 1 is still completely broken and crashes your game if you join a server using it with mods installed. additionally, harmless mods such as weapon animation replacers are not allowed by it
  
• l m a o box is still running rampant (nice censoring valve)
  
• shortstop's perfectly balanced, main functionality which was 20% more health from all sources when deployed, replaced by an entirely new mechanic (able to push players on alt fire), which could have been used on a new weapon, basically a ♥♥♥♥ you to the people who want new weapons
  
• bazaar bargain still lightyears ahead of every other sniper rifle for over a year now
  
• countless weapons still garbage since release
  
• heavy is still a joke class
  
• spy buff LOL
  
• medic buff LOL

>Be me in 2010
>Be a pimply foul-mouthed misanthropic problem drinking 20-something with no girlfriend and no job
>Be all these things because you put thousands of hours into League of Legends and are still only Silver 2
>Download TF2
>Uninstall League
>Watch your life-crippling self-hatred, devoidity of self esteem, and depression disappear!
>Watch your life turn around as you get buff, bring up your GPA, woo a wonderful woman, re-discover your sense of self respect, and log into a quickplay round every so often to shoot people in the face when you're feeling low.
>Play with friends.
>Play for 2 years solid.
>Watch as the fantastic fluidity of gameplay, snarky hilarious community and the slow rise up the skill curve on sniper and spy allow you to delete trolldiers, demos, and script pyros that have been terrorizing you for said two years solid slowly bring you to the realization that you have fallen in love with a truly unique and unrivaled gaming experience, and that you are in love.
>Watch it all go down the tubes when valve ignores the overwhelming community hatred of the new "let's annihilate our core playerbase in an attempt to attract whiny tryhards who are garbage at overwatch and try and give the pros more recognition" update.

Myhearthasneverbeenmoredevastatednotevenwhenmypuppydiedandmygirlfrienddumpedme/10 cannot recommend unless they bring back quickplay. Might even uninstall. It was good while it lasted.

Imagine the following scenario:

You and a friend enjoy playing chess. Your chessboard is old and warped, and some of the pieces are starting to lose their paint, but who cares? You two have great fun. Suddenly, one day, someone comes up to your board, slaps away all the pieces, and throws down a whole bunch of checker pieces. It just so happens that neither you nor your friend very much care for checkers. Sure, you'd play it from time to time, but you'd much rather just play chess.

However, your friend suggests that perhaps you should both just give checkers a chance. "Alright," you say to yourself, "This isn't so different than how it was before. I can deal with this." However, upon closer inspection, there aren't enough checker pieces to even play the game properly, and some of them don't even seem to belong to the same set as the rest.

You are about to open your mouth to complain, but before you can, the person who destroyed your wonderful chess set pulls down their pants and just craps all over your board. Neither you nor your friend are pleased with this turn of events. You let the strange fellow who interrupted your game know that you don't appreciate it when someone violently destroys your games for no good reason, and they seem to listen. For a moment, you have hope.

The stranger leaves, promising to fix what they broke. Soon enough, they return with a shovel. They then diligently scoop away maybe a third of the fecal matter that plagues what used to be a chess board. Afterwards, they wipe the sweat from their forehead, put down their shovel, and clap their hands together. "There!" they proudly exclaim, "All fixed, just like you wanted!"



This is the current state of TF2.

I used to love this game. I would love this game once more if they bring back quickplay. I would be perfectly fine with their pile of poop checkers sitting comfortably on it's designated side of the room, but only if I have the option to play chess as well.

Positive review because even though the wall of text is 100% negative, we need you all to keep playing and voice your opinions loudly so that Valve will do something about the horrible mess they've created.

The meet your match update was a mistake, the community has been in a constant state of outrage, outcry, and complete and total dismay, and all Valve has done about it is put on their fake god damn business smile and say, "We're sorry. We'll band-aid some of the minor problems right away," without even acknowledging the one, MAJOR f*ckup, removing Valve pubs and the Quickplay system in general.

Quickplay was not only for Valve pubs. It was also used by many to find community servers. One of those networks that was highly affected by Quickplay lost 70% OF THEIR PLAYERBASE over the last few weeks. I'm talking about TF2 APP. They are shutting down this Saturday. Because Valve won't acknowledge the one major problem with this update. They won't even say "We're sorry about pubs." They won't say anything.

If you wanna know exactly how kill your own game, just grab some ♥♥♥♥in' popcorn and watch. The ABSOLUTE most frustrating thing a company can do is completely ignore the entire customer base's main complaint about a product/update. This is how you drive out old players, and discourage new ones from coming in. It isn't rocket science, Valve. This game is 9 years old, man. Up until last month, it STILL had a concurrent 60,000 players. We're loyal as hell. We are loud as hell, but that doesn't make us less loyal. Speak to us with your mouth words, Valve. Use phonetic syllables to make sounds that our human ears will recognize, ALTERNATIVELY, use your fingers to press the buttons on your keyboard that would make up those aforementioned phonetic syllables. It's literally that simple. Open your god damn mouths and stop being so silent. The age old excuse of "we just dont wanna talk about stuff until we're sure it's ready to talk about" doesn't exactly apply here. It was cute when people were asking about HL3. Now we're talking about whether or not one of the top 10 games on Steam is going to die, by your own hands.

Get off your asses.

I love this game at its very core, I really do, and have played and continue to play it for years. However this latest update forces all players to choose between "Competitive" (HAHAHAHA) which is full of cheaters and horribly unbalanced matches in which it's always a match of you and five idiots versus six invincible gods/aimbotters (Or if you're playing Casual mode, it's you and eleven doofuses versus 12 gods/aimbotters) or the other option of the only community servers left, which are 24/7 ALLCRIT LIVE NUDES TURBINE DONOR PERKS PINION ADS UNUSUAL GIVEAWAY RTD SAXTON HALE !ROBOT MINECRAFT SKIAL NBSCLAN FURRY BRONY TRADE servers, all of which are ♥♥♥♥ing awful and full of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ admins that ban you for breathing and plaster your eyes with advertisements.

I joined this game after it went free to play in 2011. Since then I've amassed a collection of hats (and I sorely wish I never gave Valve a penny for a cosmetic, but what's done is done), become very experienced with the game (although this isn't going to help you because no matter how good you are, there will always be that one Scout who just installed the game who kills you with a random crit he doesn't deserve) and made a bunch of online friends. (No complaints there.)

With that said, I've been playing this ♥♥♥♥ for five years and can wholeheartedly tell you, with 100% certainty, this is not the game I fell in love with five years ago. This is a shell of its former self desperately clinging to relevancy in an attempt to gather even more ♥♥♥♥ing money. Valve placed quantity over quality, bloating the game's carcass with enough hat models for the game to amass a stunning weight of 15 GB compared to its release version weighing only 2 GB. They've thrown balance and performance out the window in favor of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game-breaking gimmicks and cosmetics that detract from the brilliant and carefully-laid-out image TF2 was originally made with.

Competitive is a ♥♥♥♥ing JOKE, and it's not a funny one. If you don't have five friends who are always online when you are and are either really ♥♥♥♥ing good or really ♥♥♥♥ing cheap and can abuse gimmicks or exploits that you can matchmake with, you will always be stuck with people like this against aimbotters or people drenched in eye-murdering neon colors who are so good they're damn near close to an aimbot. In the rare event that you win, you won't be properly rewarded for it and get almost no experience points. When you lose (the more common outcome unless you have those five good/cheap friends) even once you'll lose so much experience you won't know why you bothered to play in the first place and will be sent back to square one to pair with those same idiots you fought so hard to leave.

Casual mode is hardly any better. Long ♥♥♥♥ing loading times and gangs of bunnyhopping aimbotting speedhacking ambassador spies or snipers in formation to prevent being votekicked. Speaking of jokes, what's useless, ancient and doesn't do jack ♥♥♥♥? If you guessed that it was your great aunt Cassie, you're close, but it was actually Valve's Anti-Cheat system. To put it simply: It doesn't ♥♥♥♥ing work. Take a look at Max Box, the most notorious TF2 hacker around, who's been ruining games for years and boasting about it claiming he's changed afterward. The only time he ever got the VAC ban he deserved was in ♥♥♥♥ing Counter-Strike, not TF2. Valve doesn't care about quality, only the quantity of hats, money, and things they can break with every update.

Community servers are hardly worth even talking about, but to save you the trouble of being so bored out of your mind wishing Valve servers for non-Casual play would return that you make the absolute madman decision of picking one of those 24/7 ALLCRIT LIVE NUDES TURBINE DONOR PERKS PINION ADS UNUSUAL GIVEAWAY RTD SAXTON HALE !ROBOT MINECRAFT SKIAL NBSCLAN FURRY BRONY TRADE servers to play on I'll give you a run-down of what pretty much always happens on those: You join one of these ugly servers with tacky names and a list of tags longer than Santa's naughty list and sit for two and a half hours while your client downloads a bunch of dumb ♥♥♥♥ing Quake and My Little Pony sounds and models you won't ever see or hear ingame anyway. When you finally get in you hear the Unreal Tournament, Quake 3 and Mortal Kombat announcers all screaming in your ear at every ♥♥♥♥ing action anyone does, as if Ellen Mclain's narration in TF2 wasn't enough information for you. You're stuck on the MOTD watching an advertisement for a game that totally isn't a clone of World of Warcraft for sixty seconds and even if you're like me and disable all these downloads and MOTDs you have to sit there for even longer as your punishment for being too sane to put yourself through hearing loud-as-♥♥♥♥ commercials in your god damn video game. When it's finally over you walk out of spawn and get crit-killed by a scout covered in his donor perk(TM) unusual effects granted by the server since he stole his mom's credit card to buy them with. While you respawn the MOTD pops up again to show you more advertisements. You disconnect because you're not a masochist and decide to play a different game or to suffer through a casual/competitive match full of cheaters and 9999-hour burning team captain soldiers on the enemy team.

The original Team Fortress 2 was a perfectly balanced (save for perhaps the Stickybomb Launcher but everything else is so deliciously good I'll allow it) and beautiful game consisting of nine unique characters with their own personalities and playstyles. The Team Fortress 2 we have now is a horribly unbalanced and nightmarish Eldrich Horror of a crucified art style and blasphemous performance. Now, I have a really good computer, believe me. TF2's original release from 2007 gives me at least 200 frames per second, which is damn good! Modern TF2 needs a miracle or a severe graphical Minecraftization to get even above 30 frames per second, mostly due to all the entities the game is forced to render especially if 24 to 32 players are all wearing three hats, one action item and a weapon with a highly detailed CS:GO skin.

That's what TF2 is now. It's not good. It used to be good, but it sure as hell isn't now. I don't even think Valve can salvage the game, and I doubt even more that they even care to salvage it since it's a nice big fat cash cow endlessly squirting dollar bills into Valve's moist and smelly pockets the way it is right now.

There's still alternatives for TF2 like 2007 TF2 and TF2Classic but they're mostly ghost towns and games with more than eight players are a very rare and precious sight to see. 2007 TF2 is literally just the Orange Box release of TF2 conveniently made a sourcemod you can slap into your steam folder and play like the good old days, and TF2 Classic is a community-made revival and optimization of 2007 TF2 with new stuff to keep it fresh.

To summarize, TF2 at its very core is wonderful and insanely addicting. PC Gamer was right about it being the most fun I would ever have online. The way it is now, though, Team Fortress 2 is probably the most frustration and dissatisfaction you can have online. If you've never played this before I wouldn't suggest giving it a shot at this point, it's just not worth it unless you play one of the two alternatives to it I mentioned.

You know when a TV show enters like its ninth season and all the original cast and creative team have left? How everybody who actually understood what made the TV show good has been replaced by some random studio stooge who's only watched a couple episodes and turned it into a big ugly convoluted mess?

You keep hatewatching that show. You're too invested now, you have to see the trainwreck at the end. But if a friend asks you if it's a show worth getting into, you suck some air through your clenched teeth, wave your hand side-to-side and say "Ennnhhhh."

6 seasons of UGC, the last thing i want after playing a comp match is more comp, i have lost all joy in tf2 i have no desire to continue playing
thank christ i dont have time to play this game anymore

congrats Valve on doing the same thing Jagex did to RuneScape, take something perfect and destroy it because of some other game

>"JUST PLAY ON A COMMUNITY SERVER BRO!! XD"
id rather not play on a furry brony anime reddit minecraft Eurotrash x10 +perks ads 24/7 cp orange server thanks