Se déroulant de nombreuses années après la fin de Risen, des titans déchaînés ont dévasté le monde et poussé l'humanité au bord de l’extinction. Par la suite, des créatures monstrueuses sont sorties des profondeurs des mers et leurs attaques ont mis fin à toute vie marine.
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À propos de ce jeu

Se déroulant de nombreuses années après la fin de Risen, des titans déchaînés ont dévasté le monde et poussé l'humanité au bord de l’extinction. Par la suite, des créatures monstrueuses sont sorties des profondeurs des mers et leurs attaques ont mis fin à toute vie marine. Le héros, désormais membre de l’Inquisition, a été envoyé pour trouver un moyen d’arrêter ce chaos causé par ces créatures des profondeurs.Sa quête commence par des rumeurs prétendant que les pirates des îles du sud sont les seuls à connaître un moyen de se débarrasser une fois pour toutes de ces créatures et de leur règne de terreur.

Avec ce tout nouveau thème basé sur les pirates, Risen 2:Dark Waters combine les mécanismes RPG classiques tant appréciés du premier Risen, avec un thème et un cadre entièrement nouveaux, composés d’une grande diversité d’îles.Ce jeu de rôle à la troisième personne se déroule dans un univers sombre et réaliste, Risen 2:Dark Waters conserve les éléments immersifs de Risen, avec des approches multiples pour chaque défi, vous permettant de modeler le monde du jeu par rapport à vos propres décisions.Vos différents choix vont vous permettre de débloquer de nouveaux chemins, ainsi que des fonctions et des compétences supplémentaires pour votre personnage.Tout cela ajouté à un environnement très interactif et un cycle jour/nuit complet affectant d'innombrables aspects du monde du jeu, Risen 2 se déroule dans le monde de jeu RPG le plus immersif à ce jour.

Configuration requise

    Minimum :
    • Système d'exploitation : Windows XP (avec Servicepack 2)
    • Processeur : Dual Core avec 2.1 GHz
    • Mémoire vive : 2 Go RAM
    • Espace disque : 5.5 Go
    • Carte graphique : 512 Mo Radeon 3870 / GeForce 8800 GTX
    • DirectX® : 9.1c
    • Son : Carte son compatible DirectX
    • Additionnel : Clavier/souris ou gamepad. Connexion internet requise pour l'activation en ligne
    Recommandée :
    • Système d'exploitation : Windows XP (avec Servicepack 3), Windows Vista (avec Servicepack 1), Windows 7
    • Processeur : Dual Core avec 3 GHz
    • Mémoire vive : 4 Go RAM
    • Carte graphique : 1024 Mo Radeon 4890 / GeForce GTX 260
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1 personne(s) sur 1 (100%) ont trouvé cette évaluation utile
30.7 heures en tout
Posté le : 12 octobre 2014
rpg bien sympa. dans un univers de la piraterie ce qui change un peu de la fantaisie.
la narration y est sympathique, l'histoire classique : un monstre nous menace, on doit récupérer des armes pour la tuer.
graphiquement le paysage est correct encore aujourd'hui mais les animations sont datés.
la musique est présente mais discrète. elle tourne malheureusement un peu en boucle =/
pour un rpg les quêtes sont fournies et bien amenées.
l'evolution du perso est un peu lente. je suis deçu du côté magie qui n'existe plus. ça été remplacé par le vaudou mais pour débloquer les compétences ça prend trop de temps et d'argent, pour un résultat assez moyen. en fait le problème c'est qu'il faut dépenser à la fois bcp d'exp pour améliorer ses compétences et après il faut dépenser énormément d'argent pour débloquer les talents liés aux compétences. du coup perso je dépensais jamais mon argent pour l’équipement, je suis donc rester en guenille les 3/4 du jeu. le système n'est pas mauvais mais mérite d'être mieux équilibré je trouve.
mais le plus lourd dans ce jeu sont les combats. totalement à la ramasse en 1v1, même bien up il faut faire des combines avec la lance pour réussir a passer certains donjons tellement on prend cher en tant normal ds ce jeu.
puis quelques bug de temps en temps par exemple une des dernière quête : j'ai du recommencer un combat parce qu'un objet essentielle n’avait pas été looté par le boss...
mais il reste un rpg auquel on accroche bien une fois la partie lancée =)
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2 personnes ont trouvé cette évaluation amusante
26.5 heures en tout
Posté le : 21 octobre 2014
One of the worst RPGs I ever had the displeasure of playing. Let me break down my favourites just for the fun of it...

- Clunky Controls : The guy moves like a friggin tank and everything feels so horribly sluggish, especially paired with those stiff as wood animations.

- Terrible Combat : Click click click click click click click..Oh wait, there's actualy counter parries, dodge rolls and..nvm click click click click click click..Also, enemies can break your attack animation by simply hitting you with whatever they fancy. You, however, can not do the same to them, which is especially fun when you often have to fight 2 or 3 things at once.

- Tedious Quests : This game even makes you pay your hard earned..and I mean HARD EARNED gold to move on in some quests. Nothing more RPG than having a silvertongue skill of 60 to make a ♥♥♥♥♥ drop her price from 1000 to 500 gold..well invested skills points, sir...Or you get the usual "collect this and that through laborious and unfun work from all corners of the island".

- Level Up System : You do not level up, you just acquire fame which you then have to spend in 5 categories. Then you also get to pay gold to learn new "abilites" like thieving or lockpicking, for which you often require a certain level in the aforementioned categories. Lockpicking, for example, needs you to have spent around 20000 fame to even be able to learn it on a very basic level. Doing a quest usually gives you 50-100 fame as does killing an enemy..you do the maths. This ties into..

- Exploration Denied : Imagine beating some tough monsters, by letting your comrade do all the work just to reach a chest. Oh no, it requires a xx in lockpicking skill. Access denied, unless you already assembled 20000 fame somehow and the gold to upgrade your skill and the clothing to add some bonus to your skills. In the end you won't even bother to explore anymore, because you will usually lack the skills to reap the rewards. But if you do not lack them, then this ties into..

- Worst Loot EVER : Fancy finding new weapons ? New armor ? A cool hat ? Magic Boots ? Haha, no...All the good items you will get (all those..less than 15 pieces of clothing available in the whole game), will require you to buy them from merchants.. There is absolutely nothing to find equipment-wise, except for a few broken sword pieces which you can smith together (requires you to have spent fame and gold and what not again though to learn smithing in the first place, so..basically not for free either). You won't find any clothes ever, in fact most chest rewards will be absolutely laughable like..I don't know...finding 10 gold in a chest or maybe..MAYBE 50..Usually it's just a major waste of time and effort.

- Fighting the Kraken and the final boss : Ok, mostly the Kraken..who designed that and why ? Seriously..

All in all this game is a major step down from Risen 1, which already wasn't the best game in the world, but still better than this..product.
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7.4 heures en tout
Posté le : 25 septembre 2014
For me I found the game difficult to get into. I found the acting limp, the story weak, and the gameplay tedious.

As I started to lose the will to live I decided it was time to quit playing.

But if you like Pirates, English accents and the like then this could be a good choice for you. Being English myself the accents were wasted on me. Being a pirate it just seemed like going to work.*

*May not be entirely accurate.

44%

~ Snowdog
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36.1 heures en tout
Posté le : 15 novembre 2014
7/10 - Much worse game than Risen 1, combat is for no reason worse and the whole game feel less polished, like almost low-budget title. The pirate theme is new and somehow welcomed change, Patty is funny and story isnt bad either. Shame the Gothic feel from Risen 1 definitely died with this game.
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14 personne(s) sur 18 (78%) ont trouvé cette évaluation utile
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Posté le : 14 octobre 2014
Risen 2: Dark Waters is a direct continuation to Risen, featuring the same nameless hero and some of his old companions, Patty and Steelbeard, but set in an entirely new ambientation. Risen 2 parts from the sword and shield medieval fighting world of Faranga to a musket, pistol, cannon and sabers fighting modern age.

Risen 2 is set in the age of the conquistadors, where a kind of sabre-fighting and musket-shooting Spanish fleet is invading new lands inhabited by spear-throwing and voodoo-casters natives. You, a "good pirate", must fight the "bad pirates" for relics to fight the water titan lord, Mara, and for that, you need to choose to side with the inquisition, which will give you muskets, or the Natives, which will give you voodoo spells.

It is a story about the romantic and cliche view of pirates, With a lot of rum, eye patches, parrots, typical clothing and speaking, etc. Despite being a mediocre RPG, the story is captivating. If you see it on a sale, it is worth buying and giving a chance.

If you have played Risen before, you'll find better and worse aspects in comparison:

First, the battle system was crippled. It's a shame, since Risen battle system was very good. Even without training, one could battle stronger enemies given enough skill. Now, without training, you can't do anything but swing your sword around. You can't dodge anymore, the dodge was changed to a kind of roll, which is not only unrealistic (because you roll too far away) but serves only to flee, since you don't end up in a good position to counter attack.

Second, magic was removed from the game. It just didn't fit in the modern feel the developers wanted for the game. Instead, it was changed for voodoo, a kind of cursing spells used by the natives, that is almost useless for combat but adds interesting events in the game.

And third, for the good news, quests are less linear and more interesting.
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17 personne(s) sur 25 (68%) ont trouvé cette évaluation utile
55.7 heures en tout
Posté le : 5 octobre 2014
This was an amazing game! As a huge fan of fantasy rpgs, this game had everything I could want and more. Risen 1 was a cool but hard game. This one was so much more smooth and very enjoyable. A tad on the simple side maybe, but oh my it was so much fun. I loved the drawback of pirates, natives, and conquistadors that gave the game such an exotic feel. The story is really good and the companions are very helpful and fun. This was a fantastic game that I highly reccomend. The dlcs aren't really worth it but they do add money and experience. If you love rpgs, pirates, or the amazing games of deep silver then I know you'll just love this booty of awesomeness!
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19 personne(s) sur 29 (66%) ont trouvé cette évaluation utile
79.3 heures en tout
Posté le : 24 octobre 2014
This game pulled me right in and I couldn't stop playing it. Very few games have done this to the degree that this one did. I found it intense, a blast to play, and so much atmosphere. I give this game a 10 our of 10, and I am getting ready to play it again before I play Risen 3. I totally recommend this game. I am 62 years old and have been gaming on the pc since the commodore 64 days, and this is one of the best role playing games I have come across. Buy it! You will not be sorry!!
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Posté le : 7 octobre 2014
Some of my friends call me silly because of this, but ever since I played Gothic, the first Piranha Bytes game I've ever played, I've been following the games the company has released and to this day, I have yet to find one that I don't like. Most of my friends tend to curse at the "difficult" gameplay and levelling up, but I say to them - "That's old-school for you." And I like it. Nowadays, I find some of the games a bit too easy to play, but the old-school ones make me think before I start slashing and hacking at enemies, because it can happen that a boar gets me from the back and I'm done.

Risen 2 reminds me of the Gothic series quite a but, but it shouldn't surprise me since it's made by the same company. I am in love with its graphics and the storyline is very interesting. I also quite like the character redesigns from the first Risen game and their development throughout the game. Take the main protagonist for example - at the beginning of the game he's a drunkard, right? And at the end of the game, he rises as a hero again.

The new enemies are quite interesting too - I've always wanted to play more pirate games, but I haven't found an interesting one as of yet, excluding Gothic II's Addon and Risen 2 - did you notice that both of the games that made pirates interesting are made by PB? :)

Anyway, I warmly recommend this game to everyone that doesn't get too frustrated with the "difficult" gameplay. As I said, that's old-school for ya.
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44.0 heures en tout
Posté le : 30 août 2014
Background

I played Risen when it was released back in 2009 and had a great time with it. The game was very rough around the edges, and combat at the beginning of the game was absolutely brutal. But, the game shone brightly with its immense draw distances, enjoyable dialog, and rewarding exploration. Risen 2: Dark Waters maintains all of these characteristics.

Story and Setting

This is a pirate-themed RPG. Expect pirate things. I've seen several complaints that Risen 2's take on buccaneering is "generic," such as in Kevin Van Ord's review for Gamespot. This is an absurd criticism. A pirate-theme needs certain aspects, such as excessive cursing, buried treasure, tavern wenches, and unnecessarily agressive swashbucklers. Risen 2 does all of these things, and I think it does them fairly well.

The story rarely references the Unnamed Hero's previous adventure in Risen, though the grandstoryline of warring Titans continues. The main villian is a female Titan named Mara. The storytelling failed big time here, in my opinion. Mara is seen only three times during the game. Characters constantly talk about how terrible she is, but little is done to make the player feel Mara's impact.

Characters and Voice Acting

I think the voice acting in Risen 2 is consistently excellent. The pirates sound really harsh and gruff. There is one voice actor who did both pirate and Inquisition voices who I absolutely love. I can't recall him voicing any major characters, unfortuantely. Commandant Sebastiano's actor is amazing. He speaks with sophistication and vigor. I recognized his highly distinctive voice on some random NPCs.

There are many, many characters to speak with in Risen 2. I enjoyed the dialog in this game very much.

Combat

Combat in this game is pretty bad, overall. It is extremely bad for the first 10 hours, as you have very few moves. Enemies hit extremely hard and have a lot of health. The first Risen game was like this too, though by midgame it evened out, and in the late game you became an unstoppable god. I had the same experience with Risen 2. At least in this game there are companions to help with combat. They can tank enemies very effectively, so don't be ashamed to let them do so. Cheesing fights with terrain exploits shouldn't shame you either. The fights are THAT difficult. If you stick with it, by end game you will be able to destroy entire taverns full of drunk and angry pirates.

I played the voodoo path rather than the musket path, since it seemed far more interesting that firing a gun. Voodoo has some very good stuff going for it, such as scepters to make enemies fight eachother, tremor in fear, or summon a permanent ghost companion. Even so, it seems underdeveloped. The Ritual (potions) talent was completely useless to me, other than creating improved permanent stat-booster elixirs.

Graphics

I had the pleasure of playing Risen 2 both in 2560x1440 and 1080p stereoscopic 3D. The game runs very well with 3D Vision after disabling water reflections and shadows. The lush jungles were an absolute treat in 3D, where each tree and each leaf helps to give the sense of a rich 3D world. The draw distance is unlimited... there is no fogging whatsoever.

But, the graphics have many technical issues. Level of detail changes cause trees to "grow" and the ground/rocks to change shape as you move through areas. Textures are consistenly low resolution. When a canned execution animation plays, the Unnamed Hero's neck distorts horrifically. Animations are poor across the board, really.

I have seen absolutely ridiculous criticisms of the Risen series as having poor graphics that don't improve across installments. Risen 2 is a major improvement over Risen 1, and Risen 3: Titan Lords obviously looks better than Dark Waters. The graphics are definitely flawed, but the engine pushes DirectX 9 to its limits.

Conclusion

I had a great time with Risen 2. I play video games less and less as the years go on, and Risen 2 was the first in a while to hook me into very long play sessions. I will definitely be picking up Risen 3, but I just spent 43 hours in Risen 2, so I'll take a break before diving in.

I recommend the Risen series to people who can appreciate a hardcore RPG experience. There is a lot of "jankiness" in Risen games, but I really wouldn't have it any other way. There's a charm to NPCs that instantly repeat their lines before finishing if you spam-click them.
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13 personne(s) sur 21 (62%) ont trouvé cette évaluation utile
10.6 heures en tout
Posté le : 29 septembre 2014
Note: Copy-Paste from my review of Risen 1. You shouldn't play Risen 2 without having played Risen 1.

Personal rating: 8/10
Replayability: Medium
Budget: Worth it.
Lenght: A few days to a week.

Risen 2 specific notes: Risen 2, apart from what I have to say about the series in general below, has a slightly clumsy combat system, and feels like a partial attempt at making a Sid-Meyer's Pirates! inspired RPG, but remains a very good game.

I'm not sure what to think of Risen. The company behind Risen made Gothic, a series that I loved. Gothic has a tragic story, funding was cut from the expansion pack to the third installment, resulting in a buggy game that felt unfinished, and had the wrong voice-actors. The dreaded fourth installment that the orginal company wasn't even part of, killed the series, and I hear this is why they started Risen on the side.

While I was initially excited about Risen, I feel like Risen is some sort of attempt from the company's side to "win back" their original ideas for gothic. It feels like they're trying to make the same game, but different.

Still, Risen has a decent story, but Risen is a series, and the third installment just game out. I'll try not to judge Risen 1 on the sequels, but it's hard, because frankly Risen 2 feels like they retconned a lot of Risen 1 in an attempt to reboot their franchise as a sort of "pirate age" age game, even though it clearly felt like a high-fantasy gothic medieval game in the first installment.

Separately though, the games are quite good, it's just a bit of a snag to get over how poorly they connect, despite several characters making appearances in both games.

In many ways, Risen perfectly embodies the spirit of Gothic and does provide some not-seen-before elements. Where in Gothic, you felt like you were the nameless master-mind behind a gang of anti-heroes who follow you out of some misguided sense of loyalty (honor among thieves, I guess) rather than true friendship, always facing challenges in a hostile world as you go about, in Risen you feel like people actually have a more "human" relationship towards you. Sure, you're still a nameless guy but apart from a select few individuals, you're truly alone this time, but your friendships in the game are based on actual frienship, meaning the character actually has some relationships with people.

Risen in no way beats or threatens the legacy of the 3 real gothic games, but if you liked gothic, you NEED to play Risen too.

Fun fact: Many fans believe that unofficially, Risen is set several years in the future of the original gothic trilogy. Read more on this theory on the internet.
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5 personne(s) sur 6 (83%) ont trouvé cette évaluation utile
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Posté le : 25 octobre 2014
The controls can get frustrating at times but more often then not you don't even notice. Not for casuals who want everything handed to them; you actually have to manage your gold instead of being able to buy out every store you come across and when you get new equipment it actually means something instead of a constant stream of over powered disposable weapons. It is a good old school game with a great story and a decent sense of humor The gnome you can get on your crew is hilarious . The combat system was dumbed down from the original but what do you expect when they make a game with consoles in mind. Over all give this game a chance and you wont regret it.
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Posté le : 29 octobre 2014
The story is fine, although I didn't play the first one. It was sometimes frustrating because it was slow at loading and had to save too many times while fighting, and also the game ran slow on my computer. But the gameplay was good, the story wasn't exactly short and upgrading skills took time. But after the final fight, you can't do anything, so if you missed some missions you have to load your last savefile before going to the Water Temple . But it's overall a nice game. 7/10
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24.8 heures en tout
Posté le : 15 décembre 2014
Tedious eurojank WRPG with fun dialogue and role-playing mechanics. I personally enjoy it, and it's one of the few pirate RPGs out there.

Get parry and flourish asap if you want to make the rest of the game tolerable even if you don't want to spec in swords.

Get in a bundle. Get in my bundle.
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5 personne(s) sur 7 (71%) ont trouvé cette évaluation utile
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Posté le : 16 novembre 2014
I actually enjoyed this game. Not boring at all. Game play was good as was the story line, voice acting and animation. Kudos to the Developers.
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8.6 heures en tout
Posté le : 15 janvier
Terrible controls. Character movement not fluid. Key-binding options too restriced. Locked user interface.
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6.9 heures en tout
Posté le : 1 septembre 2014
This game could be great - it is worse than gothic and risen, but still is interesting and I really enjoyed the time I spent with this game..... Until there was a bug and I was unable to finish the main quest and would have to go back 2-3 hours back to try again. It is unbelievable how mad I am now. And, unfortunately, it is a common bug appearing in Risen 2. What a shame, this game could be really something...
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5 personne(s) sur 8 (63%) ont trouvé cette évaluation utile
7.1 heures en tout
Posté le : 6 octobre 2014
Risen is an awesome franchise but underrated.

the good:
- decent story
- good character progression
- static enemy strength (some find this a con)
- do what you want
- feels good when you get used to the controls
- pirates

the bad:
- people may have to get used to the controls of gothic/risen
- the difficulty curve may be too steep for some players
- forgetting to save can lead to long do-overs

A great game, especially if you like games like gothic or other 3rd person RPGs. 8,5/10
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Posté le : 8 octobre 2014
One of the best old school RPG ever created 10/10...a game that stays true to the series with a great atmosphere and theme -piracy !!! A game made with love for the fans :)
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Posté le : 22 septembre 2014
A Really nice RPG, with a really nice setting. The characters are a lot of fun to listen to, and some of the dialogue has had me in hysterics. Ive read some things about the combat being poor but in my opinion it isnt all that bad, its not great but its no worse than say Skyrims or The Witchers.

I'm not that far into it, but so far its been very enjoyable. Lots of exploration of intresting environments, looting and lots of killing turkeys for chicken (yes im serious).

One thing to note is that its hard to gain skills and level up your character, unlike in most modern RPGs where you level up and gain skills from doing things over time (like in Bethseda games) in this and Risen 1, skills cost gold and 'glory' (both of which you need a LOT of) to level up your attributes, talents and skills etc. So be prepared to sink a hell of lot of time in just building your character to be able to defeat harder foes.
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Posté le : 18 août 2014
As of being halfway through Risen 2, it is my opinion that while this game does have some minor to moderate issues that affect gameplay, there's still enough meat in the game to keep me playing.

Weaknesses:

Graphics performance: this game has optimization issues. By no means do I have a beast machine (3rd gen i7, Intel HD Graphics 4000, 8 GB RAM), but Saints Row IV runs faster for me than this game does; I've not had a moment of smooth movement for ~15 hours of gameplay, and that's on low graphic settings. I usually don't let graphics get in the way of my gaming, but for a 2012 game, I at least expect a decent frame rate if the graphics are going to be sub-par for its era.

Camera and Mouse Sensitivity
I'm lumping these two together because Risen 2 makes a strange relationship between these two things. First, there is NO mouse sensitivity--your only option for what is a ridiculously high default camera movement speed is to lower that, but you're not out of the woods. Mouse sensitivity is really high for menus, dialogue, and some minigames. The mouse sensitivity is particularly an awful experience when in some minigames, like the shooting range; the only option you have to try and keep your sanity is to lower the game's difficulty to slow everything but your cursor down.

Perspective
The player's perspective throughout the game is a touch annoying at times; you can never look up, and trying to line yourself up right to notice items on the ground, on tables, or next to sleeping NPCs that will murder you if you wake them can be an unreasonably frustrating part of this game.

Strengths:

Difficulty: Technical issues aside, this game is actually difficult; you WILL struggle early game, and while that may not seem like much fun, it does feel appropriate. Risen 2 does a good job of making you learn how to play, and when you do learn that special skill or get that musket, it's a great feeling, but you won't be overpowered. At least as far as midgame, the concept of "grinding" is impossible; enemies don't spawn that fast, aren't worth that much exp, and even if they were, you'd put your life at risk for more than it's worth.

Culture and humor: The pirate culture of Risen 2 is really entertaining. While the voice acting isn't always awesome, the content of what you hear usually sticks pretty true to what we think pirates said and did. The humor is also fairly rich for a game that doesn't seem to have the best writers ever; I caught myself laughing a tad uncontrollably once or twice. I'll give the game that much.

Combat: Risen 2 lets you fight how you want to fight. Will you buy a better sword, or make it with what you've got and give guns a try? Ooo, but what if I said "screw guns" and went with Voodoo instead? The combat in Risen 2 is certainly interesting enough to keep you interested--if you get bored with one method, you have a whole other style of combat ready for you, be that Voodoo or Firearms.

Final say:
This is a decent game. 10 years from now I won't be thinking back about how great a time I had playing Risen 2, but I do enjoy it enough to want to finish it. If you find this game on sale or in a Humble Bundle, go for it.
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