(to skip to a couple reasons how they are misleading you, skip to the EDIT: part)EDIT #2: Yes, they updated it. It is STILL NOT EARLY ACCESS. It has been discussed in the comments, so please read them. It shouldn't be far back. But if you feel the need to argue some point, please read this whole post, and then skim through the comments. I can almost guarantee that your argument has been brought up and discussed already. Also, to everyone who has found this informative and helpful, THANK YOU for all of your support!!
Wow. I was banned from the discussion forum. Way to go. You didn't even read the post apparently. Do you plan on suppressing everyone who has anything to say regarding how you are misleading people? Good luck. Had you left my post up, you would have seen that it was actually helping you. You are going to get a slew of people posting, emailing and messaging you about how they were misled, and I would bet that a lot of them are going to want a refund. I stated in my post that I supported the game, and the developers, but because I pointed out how the community is being misled, I get silenced.
I take away my further statement. I don't support you anymore, and now I hope you get all those emails from people who you ♥♥♥♥ed off. It's already all over the forum, you can't silence them all. At least with my post they would have been informed before buying. But I guess you really don't care, all you want is their money.
So, for anyone else reading this, this game is NOT early access, it is a demo. And you can get the demo for free when the game is released. So don't buy it.
EDIT (WARNING.... LONG POST):
Since it might seem to some that I am just shi tty at the devs, I am adding to my original review. Hopefully you guys see it as what it is. I am not mad at them for banning me, I am mad at them for blatantly misleading people. and then when anyone says anything about it they get locked/deleted/banned. That isn't right. To me, that is abuse of power. If you delete every single thing that you don't like, or that you find negative regarding your product, that's shady as hell, and I won't support people that do that. Anyway, here is the rest. And yes, IT IS VERY LONG.
First, I saw in my posts a lot of complaining and name calling, and the biggest thing was that "demo" is only a name, a title. I agree. And a name/title needs to have a clear definition on what it is.Demo:
a demonstration of the capabilities of something, typically computer software or a musical group.
"a demo tape"Early Access:
Get immediate access to games that are being developed with the community's involvement. These are games that evolve as you play them
, as you give feedback, and as the developers update and add content.
I made a couple of posts in the forums regarding the way they are misleading people by selling their demo as an Early Access game. The definition of what is and is not Early Access according to the official Steam posting is clearly defined (as described above, with a link below the next paragraph).
They say point blank that this is a demo
for people who are pre-ordering and for their Kickstarter backers. They don't deny it. Steam says point blank "Is this the same as pre-ordering? No." and then goes on to list some more qualities of what an Early Access game is.http://store.steampowered.com/earlyaccessfaq/
Dead State is none of them.
It wouldn't matter if you called it "Dead State: Prologue" or "Dead State: Act I". As it is, it is called "Dead State: The First Sevem Days" and they refer to it as "The First Seven Days Demo". So for all those people who feel that I am hung up on the name "demo", the name doesn't matter at all. What it IS is what matters, and what you get for paying does not fit the definition of what "Early Access" is. It does, however, fit what "Demo" means.
And.... sine people are also hung up on the phrase "WIP Demo", that just means that they are still working on the game. Not that you are getting an alpha or beta version of the game. Make no mistake, you are paying $25 for a demo, and a demo which *should* be free
and indeed WILL be free when the game is released.
You don't get access to an alpha or beta version of the game, you get a demo of the first seven days. It won't be added to, or updated... except for bugfixes, maybe, but not new quests, goals, content, etc, and it will never go past the first 7 days. After that, for AT LEAST the next 3-5 months, you don't get anything. Then, when the game is released to everyone, your demo gets replaced by the full version ( I highly doubt that it "morphs" into the full version).
You are NOT a part of the development, you are a focus group. There is a HUGE difference. They want you to play the demo, and tell them what you like/dont like about it, and if you find any bugs. Some will say "Well isn't that the same?", and no, it isn't. If you find a bug in the first 7 days, great.... but what about the next 7? And the 14 after that?
This "Early Access Demo" as they call it (another misleading statement) is not a full game that evolves over time, where you have a direct effect on it's development. You get the demo. Period. Another defense of theirs is "This is a traditional RPG, and instead of releasing it in chunks..." and they talk about why they won't release any more than the first 7 days. Again, that screams DEMO and NOT Early Access.
The beta version of the game will not be made available to Steam. It is only being tested in-house. That alone says that it isn't Early Access. And what about this "Not releasing it in chunks..." thing they talk about? Does that not apply to their in-house beta testers? I am all for testing in-house, but don't put up a game on EA if people can't even play the beta.
There is more.... does anyone want me to go on?
I actually like the game, and until they banned me I said over and over that people should buy it... as long as they knew what they were getting. The devs didn't like that. So they banned me and deleted my posts.
What does that say to you? That they only give a sh it about the money. They KNOW they are misleading people, and instead of using my posts for what they were (information for people who were considering buying), they deleted them. So not only are they now deliberately
misleading people into buying what they think
is an Early Access game, they are making sure that no one speaks up about it, and remove any trace of that completely, including banning the people that say it. I am not the only person that has been locked/deleted/banned for speaking out. Unless they deleted all of them, the forum was full of locked posts before I got banned.
So no, don't buy the game. If you want the demo, wait until the final game comes out, at which point the same exact demo that you would be paying for now will be free
Look, I am honestly just trying to show you guys what they are offering and saying they are offering may not be what you expect, BEFORE you do an impulse buy, or are just misled by what they say. I am still going to get called a troll, or an idiot who psychopathically rambles, or whatever. You can call me all the names you want, I am just trying to inform people.
And I know these are long posts, and that most people on here have a short attention span, but please do me the courtesy and READ everything before you feel the need to type a rebuke.