'The Raven - Legacy of a Master Thief' is a thrilling crime adventure in three chapters from the creators of 'The Book of Unwritten Tales'. Full of twists and turns, it immerses you in both sides of the story, combining thrill-of-the-chase whodunit with the risk and reward of a heist story. Paris, 1960.
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Data de lançamento: 23 Jul, 2013

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“This first chapter's characters, art, puzzles, and mystery get The Raven adventure trilogy off to an amazing start.”
9/10 – IGN

“The first episode of The Raven offers up a captivating story, intriguing characters and brilliant audio production to get the three-part series on track right away.”
4/5 – Adventure Gamers

“The Raven — Legacy of a Master Thief is not a book adaptation, but it is clearly a loving homage to both Agatha Christie and her books, and one made by people with some skill.”
88 % – RPG fan

Edição de luxo digital

The Digital Deluxe Edition includes:

  • Soundtrack
  • Story book (plenty of background info and artworks)
  • “Making of” booklet
  • Papercraft mask of The Raven (printable)
  • Digital poster (printable)

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'The Raven - Legacy of a Master Thief' is a thrilling crime adventure in three chapters from the creators of 'The Book of Unwritten Tales'. Full of twists and turns, it immerses you in both sides of the story, combining thrill-of-the-chase whodunit with the risk and reward of a heist story.

Paris, 1960. Europe is in the grip of the gentleman master thief The Raven. His burglaries are spectacular and he always emerges unscathed. Young hotshot investigator Nicolas Legrand stuns the public when he confronts the master thief and fatally wounds him.

London, 1964. An ancient ruby – one of the legendary 'Eyes of the Sphinx' – is stolen from the British Museum. At the crime scene: a raven feather. Is somebody trying to follow in the Raven's footsteps? – Legrand is back on the case. At the same time in Zurich a phone rings. Constable Anton Jakob Zellner looks up from behind a mountain of files. He has no idea what lies hidden in a bank vault, just a few hundred meters away from him. As he reaches for the receiver his life takes a crucial turn…

All three chapters are now available:
  • Chapter I: The Eye of the Sphinx
  • Chapter II: Ancestry of Lies
  • Chapter III: A Murder of Ravens

Key Features:

  • King Art's thrilling crime adventure – full of twists and turns – immerses you in both sides of the story, combining elements of classic whodunit and heist stories
  • Cinematic presentation with hundreds of camera angles and dozens of cutscenes
  • Optional puzzles and scoring system for adventure game veterans
  • Notebook and help function for adventure game newcomers
  • Breathtaking real-time 3D graphics in full HD

Requisitos do Sistema

Windows
Mac OS X
SteamOS + Linux
    Minimum:
    • OS:Windows XP SP3/Vista/7/8
    • Processor:2.0 GHz CPU
    • Memory:2 GB RAM
    • Graphics:DirectX 9c compatible graphic card with 256 MB RAM and PixelShader 3.0
    • DirectX®:9.0c
    Minimum:
    • OS:OS X Version Leopard 10.5.8, Snow Leopard 10.6.3
    • Processor:2.0 GHz CPU
    • Memory:2 GB RAM
    • Graphics:NVIDIA GeForce 8 Series or higher/ATI X1600 or higher (Pixel Shader 3.0)
    • Not compatible with MacBook Air 2013
    Minimum:
    • Processor:2.0 GHz CPU
    • Memory:2 GB RAM
    • Graphics:NVIDIA GeForce 8 Series or higher/ATI X1600 or higher (Pixel Shader 3.0)
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markogrubjeshich4693
( 19.8 hrs em registo )
Publicada: 30 de Junho
Thank god that it's over. I can't stand huge glitches that can prevent game progression: camera angles not changing so that you can't enter or leave key locations, sudden dissapearance of important items from inventory (forensic officer achievement is effected by this), infinite back and forward walk loop from which you can't eacape and can't go to main meny so force shuting game is only option, resolution error where it's impossible to click on some items because they are off screen where cursor can't go (crime scene investigator achievement is effected by this). For adventure game this is unforgivable.
Puzzles were easy which I don't like
Story was ok.
The Joker
( 15.0 hrs em registo )
Publicada: 26 de Junho
awsome and intresting
Winter Garden
( 6.2 hrs em registo )
Publicada: 14 de Junho
Purchased game but it only allows me to play chapter 1 when all 3 chapters are available. What a rip off. Game itself is fun though and I wish I could continue.
aceproffitt
( 15.3 hrs em registo )
Publicada: 8 de Junho
It's a fairly well put together point and click game. There's a certain sense of mystery. If you are the kind of person who wants a good story with some challenge, it's not a bad pick-up when on sale.

Pros:
--Well done hint & journal & inventory system
--High quality voice acting
--Several well-done "twists" in the story, especially Parts I & III
--An extremel large amount of material to read & explore

Cons:
--Part of the problem is some puzzles based on finding very small areas to click, a lot of replay
--Part II a little duller than other two sections
--One puzzle minigame, picking a lock late in Part I, is not well made; you may need to find a walkthough to see the mechanics of what you are supposed to do.
--Final epilogue twist did not really do anything for me, seemed sort of thrown in

LozzimusPrime
( 4.4 hrs em registo )
Publicada: 5 de Junho
I really want to enjoy this game. I really do. I love point-n-click games, Agatha Christie, Hercule Poirot, crime and mystery. Yet OMFG the controls. Yes, all you do is click, but trying to leave one area to another is frustrating. I havent even advanced properly in the very first level on the train due to the frustration that I cant leave areas without saving, quitting and returning.

Because the Inspectors inventory is on the bottom of the screen, you are trying desperate not to click anything when you want to move onto the next area. So the Inspector starts to spin round really slowly instead. Paid £6 for this in a sale and Im glad I did. Its not worth the full price. The XBox version works a dream compared to this. Such a shame as it has the makings of a good detective story, which we need more of!
Ara
( 8.5 hrs em registo )
Publicada: 25 de Maio
Was enjoying the game, played all the way up to Chapter 3 and now I'm in an "escape the room" situation and no matter what I do the character just walks in circles or in place infinitely when trying to walk across the room to the thing i need to use. The pathfinding is completely broken in Chapter 3, and usually it just walks into a wall for a minute before teleporting to the destination, but at this part it never gives up and teleports you. And every time it happens, you become unable to open the pause menu, so the game needs to be force-closed. This happened 10 times in a row.

It's a shame, because I'd been more or less enjoying the first two chapters, and now I'll probably never finish the game.
michaelanzalone19755
( 0.2 hrs em registo )
Publicada: 20 de Maio
Produto recebido gratuitamente
FAILED TO LAUNCH GAME. CANNOT PLAY THE GAME! REALLY WISH I DIDN'T BUY THIS IN A PACKAGE. I TRIED EVERYTHINGTHING CANNOT LAUNMCH. THE SAME THING WITH SAFE CRACKER. DO NOT GET THOSE GAMES TOTAL RIP OFF!!!
em
( 20.1 hrs em registo )
Publicada: 19 de Maio
I'm not really an avid gamer, but I'm big on mystery games and have played most of the good ones. The Raven is pretty good, but definitely at times the gameplay is clunky and it's difficult to figure out what the hell to do. There are a couple technical glitches here and there, but the overall storytelling is enticing and the way it unfolds is unique. I'd recommend it, but it wouldn't satisfy an avid fan of Agatha Christie or Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (I know there are bits of the game meant to reference Christie, but I felt that they weren't followed through enough.) Overall, a decent game with decent graphics and a lovely story.
FleetCommand
( 11.4 hrs em registo )
Publicada: 15 de Maio
Produto recebido gratuitamente
Too expensive?

This was a free game for a gaming magazine a few months ago. But not paying for a game doesn't mean playing said game is free. You invest more than 10 hours of your life into this. Which means that if the game is not good enough, even "free" can be expensive. Was it this time? Let's find out.

Wo bist du?

You play the role of a Swiss policeman in the hope that your final act before retirement would be to catch The Raven. The burglar who was responsible for stealing expensive jewelries earlier. So you find yourself in a point and click adventure game walking around and clicking on things. Later you also get control of other characters to be able to see the full picture and get to the end of the riddle.

We are the player

Was it a good idea? Is it a good mechanics to reveal the picture by controlling multiple characters? From the immersion perspective, it isn't. I felt disconnected when I first realized that from now on I get to control someone else. However, from the story perspective, it is a good decision. Seems to be the most logical choice of storytelling once you know the whole picture. Which you don't until the last scene.

Walk Like an Egyptian

So what do we have here?

We have a great music in this game, also we have a nice story and a great storytelling. And while I did not really like how the characters look like, I do like how the environment looks like. Not the most impressive looking thing ever, but still decent and it has its own charm.

Then why did I put a "not recommended" seal to this game, you might ask. Unfortunately because of every other aspect of the game:

  • You make no decisions at all and what you do in one chapter of the game doesn't affect the happenings in the other chapters at all. You can't even play the game continously. Once you finished Chapter 1, the credits roll then you simply click "New Game" and you select Chapter 2 from there.
  • You can save. But don't be fooled. The save feature doesn't really saves your current progress instead it saves from an arbitrary checkpoint. And that checkpoint might had happened to be just a moment before your save or 15 minutes earlier. You never know until you reload your save and you realise you have no idea which point of the game you are at. And you also have to redo a lot of things.
  • I found most riddles dumb. At a point you have a mirror. You want to look around somewhere using that mirror. So you take a radio antenna and stick the mirror to the radio antenna by using a candy you chewed to make it stick. I'm serious. And it holds for like 30 minutes or more. And there are more of these.
  • The movement around is horrible and makes your head ache. You are lucky if the character you control goes where you clicked. Otherwise they love teleporting, moonwalking, ice skating on the floor without having ice or a pair of skates, or just standing in one place and doing full rotations like a radar.
  • The animations are poorly done and the faces look like made of plasticine. If you wish to avoid nightmares, just follow this sanity-saving tip: whenever you think Mrs. Miller is going to smile, close your eyes.

TL;DR

Great story with nice music. But for full price it doesn't worth the pain trying to get the characters go where you want them to go. Because they won't. I'm not entirely sure that even playing it for free worth it. Can't honestly tell you any scenario where you should be buying this game for real-life money. And that's really sad because the Poirot-mood is nicely catched.
JessC
( 23.7 hrs em registo )
Publicada: 15 de Maio
I really enjoyed this game, only problem were the movement glitches which made some parts frustrating. But a good mystery to solve and beautiful graphics. Handy tip is to save often!
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Não recomendado
4.4 hrs em registo
Publicada: 5 de Junho
I really want to enjoy this game. I really do. I love point-n-click games, Agatha Christie, Hercule Poirot, crime and mystery. Yet OMFG the controls. Yes, all you do is click, but trying to leave one area to another is frustrating. I havent even advanced properly in the very first level on the train due to the frustration that I cant leave areas without saving, quitting and returning.

Because the Inspectors inventory is on the bottom of the screen, you are trying desperate not to click anything when you want to move onto the next area. So the Inspector starts to spin round really slowly instead. Paid £6 for this in a sale and Im glad I did. Its not worth the full price. The XBox version works a dream compared to this. Such a shame as it has the makings of a good detective story, which we need more of!
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15.3 hrs em registo
Publicada: 8 de Junho
It's a fairly well put together point and click game. There's a certain sense of mystery. If you are the kind of person who wants a good story with some challenge, it's not a bad pick-up when on sale.

Pros:
--Well done hint & journal & inventory system
--High quality voice acting
--Several well-done "twists" in the story, especially Parts I & III
--An extremel large amount of material to read & explore

Cons:
--Part of the problem is some puzzles based on finding very small areas to click, a lot of replay
--Part II a little duller than other two sections
--One puzzle minigame, picking a lock late in Part I, is not well made; you may need to find a walkthough to see the mechanics of what you are supposed to do.
--Final epilogue twist did not really do anything for me, seemed sort of thrown in

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14.2 hrs em registo
Publicada: 27 de Janeiro de 2014
Recomendável para maiores de 150 anos.
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17.6 hrs em registo
Publicada: 16 de Junho de 2015
I initially bought this game at full price due to the positive early reviews (which were mostly based on the first chapter).

Unfortunately, the game is severely broken for many users and the developers have done little to fix these issues since the game's release. These are not only minor bugs or annoyances, but critical game breaking issues.

I usually love these types of adventure games, but in this case, I have been unable to progress beyond the first chapter (disregard the deceptive amount of hours on record; I have left the game running in the background on several occasions while running errands, sleeping or looking for solutions to the problems I've encountered). It is unlikely that I will get a refund as I bought the game long before Steam's refund policies were changed. Instead, I want to warn future potential buyers of the problems they may encounter.

Take a look at the forum posts below:

Bug thread (13 pages so far): https://steamcommunity.com/app/233370/discussions/0/846959998013346908/

Save games disappearing (this is my biggest issue at the moment, as you can see by my posts to the below threads):

https://steamcommunity.com/app/233370/discussions/0/594820656460543503/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/233370/discussions/0/540734168144496448/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/233370/discussions/0/34095131971716840/

Linux/Mac issues (there are too many of these threads to list them all):

https://steamcommunity.com/app/233370/discussions/0/540736320066916724/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/233370/discussions/0/540732596570915707/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/233370/discussions/0/540734792154348290/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/233370/discussions/0/540736780877897495/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/233370/discussions/0/846959875998907603/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/233370/discussions/0/846959876007904035/

Etc.

More examples can be found on the game's discussion page and I recommend reading through it. These issues have NOT been fixed, despite the game having been out for two years now.

This leaves the game unplayable for many people; whether you are going to be one of these people depends on your luck and on your operating system. Mac and Linux users seem to have the most issues. As the game is listed as being compatible on these operating systems, this is inexcusable.

As for the game itself (or the little I have been able to experience of it), the story is an obvious homage to Agatha Christie's Hercule Poirot. The first chapter starts off slow, but quickly builds up suspense once the titular "Raven" makes an appearance. I have heard that the second and third chapters are a bit of a let down compared to the first chapter's conclusion. The puzzles are alright, but nothing memorable comes to mind. They mainly seem to revolve around using the right object in the right location. I didn't encounter any logic puzzles or truly creative solutions. There is some pixel hunting involved, which I found annoying in the initial train sequence (although it is possible to reveal hot spots in the game by using up "points", this locks certain achievements from being accomplished). The animation and movement in the game is frankly awful, but I was able to ignore it for the most part. It does not really compare well to contemporary medium-high budget games, and as such the standard asking price is a tad steep. I would write more about the game itself, but my save games were erased three times in a row and I have given up on making any progress beyond this chapter.

Basically, if you play on Mac or Linux: DO NOT BUY THIS GAME!

If you play on Windows... buy at your own risk. The first chapter seems decent enough; I can't personally comment on the final two chapters, but many reviews online seem to paint them in a rather mediocre light. Even if you do not encounter the technical issues that apply to Mac or Linux users, the game is still rife with random bugs which can impede your progress. I'd wait for a sale, or hope that the developers finally take notice of these issues and release a patch.




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14.1 hrs em registo
Publicada: 21 de Agosto de 2014
The Raven is one of the more enjoyable P&C adventures I've played in the past few years. And probably the best P&C mystery/detective adventure I've ever played. I really enjoyed Testament of Sherlock Holmes as well, but this was better done, in my opinion.

Many, many video games seem to be built by developers, programmers and artists, and then have a story sort of try and glue the pieces together loosely for an enjoyable experience. There is nothing wrong with that. There are a ton of really fun games out there with this formula.

In the case of The Raven, it felt like a team of writers (or maybe just one, I dunno) put together a fine story, and then built a game to wrap around it. For me, this was a departure from the typical game formula and a breath of fresh air. BUT, it won't be for everyone.

You get to play three different characters in the game (two male, one female) as you both try to unravel a mystery, and become a deeper part of it at the same time.

The game play is fairly typical P&C, with a few treats in regard to "repeat performances" at very specific "crossroads" in the game (I won't spoil it).

The game isn't without flaws. There are inconsitent commands when it comes to character movement, occasionally sloppy pixel area matching (when your mouse cursor can either click on an object well outside the object, or not at all). Audio sometimes cuts out, and the cutscenes occasionally get wonky. The game crashed on me a handful of times in the 14 hours I spent playing it. It has some warts when it comes to gameplay mechanics and execution.

But all that being said, it was STILL a joy to play. The character development is among some of the best I've ever experienced in decades of gaming. Dialogue that seems nebulous at times ties in wonderfully by the end of the game. In fact, SO good, that you'll even chuckle at the end at encounters that occurred earlier in the game when you realize the full context of the conversation later.

There is subtle and mature humor in just the right places when you've had enough serious dialogue. There are extremely mature subjects that are covered, and conversations that really pull you in if you've lived for longer than a few decades on this planet. And when I say "mature" I don't mean an ESRB version of it. There's not much in the way of sophomoric language or gratuitious violence. But there are very adult themes that many of us become sadly familiar with (or can laugh about) when we get older. And some we'll never laugh about.

The bottom line is that this is a true adult mystery with several wonderful twists, a killer storyline, some fun (but typical) P&C mechanics, and some fun and mostly logical puzzles.

If you enjoy a strong story in your games (or at all), or enjoy mysteries, or generally enjoy P&C adventures, I can recommend this. If you enjoy all three, then I think this title is a "can't miss" and even a bit underrated.
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Recomendado
10.2 hrs em registo
Publicada: 8 de Dezembro de 2013
For a point-and-click adventure game, the main character is endearing, the overal scenery graphics are movie quality (there are weird glitches with the character though), and while it was fairly predictable, it was still good old fashioned fun! The music really fit this game as a time piece, and the dialog was well put together, if not a little long in the tooth.

I gave the entire 3 part series of the Raven: Legacy of a Master Thief a 4.25/5.0
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15.4 hrs em registo
Publicada: 4 de Dezembro de 2013
This is a classic old-school style point-and-click adventure with some quality graphics, superb voice acting, and a brilliant orchestral soundtrack. It has a strong nostalgic feel of a Poirot / Pink Panther whodunnit.

My one criticism is that the puzzles are pretty simple - sometimes you feel you are just clicking things for the character to reveal the story. However, the atmosphere and superb voice acting will keep you hooked in, and it's worth sticking with it to the end to reveal the true identity of the "The Raven" - the mysterious, shadowy character you chase through the game.

The pace is quite slow - but in a nice gentle way. It's a perfect chillout game for the mature adventure gamer on a lazy Sunday afternoon.
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25.2 hrs em registo
Publicada: 18 de Junho de 2015
Just finished the game and have to give it a good recommendation. The game has a lot of atmosphere for a very good story that is not transparent. I enjoyed the game very much, the graphics were well done and fit the time of the story very well. It's a pretty simple point and click adventure game, although sometimes it can be difficult to figure out how to advance in the game. Some thinking is required. The voice acting was done very well in my opinion and the music through out the game was also very well done. Most of the schievements are pretty easy to get, one is difficult and you may need to find some help to get it done as it is a tricky one to get for most. I have over 20 hours in the game but 3-4 hrs of it were AFK time. It is an enjoyable game without being to stressful so it's fun to just sit down and play it and see what you can figure out and enjoy the story. The only minus I can really give the game is some times the UI can be a bit clunky and getting your character to walk where you want them to can sometime be frustrating but not to the point it wrecks the game. 7/10
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16.8 hrs em registo
Publicada: 26 de Dezembro de 2015
Short version: 91%
If Agatha Christie would have written a heist thriller, it would have probably been a lot like The Raven: an interesting whodunit wrapped in an exciting jewel thievery, all presented as a three-part, solid point ‘n’ click adventure game with a clear, comfortable interface.

Long version:
Playing through The Raven: Legacy of a Master Thief is like sitting down to watch ‘Murder on the Orient Express’ (the ’74 one), which miraculously transforms into ‘The Italian Job’ (again, the original).

The story even starts on the Orient Express, where we meet our first protagonist, Constable Zellner, an obvious Poirot homage (we even meet this world’s Agatha Christie). He eventually manages to get mixed up in an investigation against the Raven: master thief who plans to steal two Egyptian jewels.
From this point on, we are treated to both a classic English style whodunit murder mystery on-board a cruise ship (a smaller homage to ‘Death on the Nile’), and a heist thriller where many people are not who they seem, and several well-crafted plans are at work at the same time, directly opposing each other. This is also the point where the story introduces the other protagonists, a young burglar couple.
Not only the plot is great, but the characters as well. All of them have detailed, often tragic backstories, just like the best Christie novels. And they are played by talented English actors.

Since the story tries to imitate Ms. Christie’s work, the puzzles are also straightforward and realistic, aided by a simple interface. Don’t expect an easy game though, because progress usually requires carefully examining every possibility before the game lets the player choose the correct one. The characters cannot run and many tasks are divided into dozens of small steps, yet the pacing is so good that the game never feels boring, and the 12-15 hours of play time just flies by pretty fast.
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15.8 hrs em registo
Publicada: 12 de Setembro de 2014
As someone who enjoys good point-and-click games, this was an averagely good one, though it wasn't an awesome one. As someone who's read and loved Agatha Christie, the constant references to her books, character and herself are simply adorable.

Things I liked about it:
  • The plot felt like a tribute to Agatha Christie's mystery novels, even in certain apparently far-fetched plot twists. There are also nods to what became the "classic" plot in mystery novels. I loved it when one of the characters said something like "what do you think, we're going to come up with new surprise characters?" or similar. Even the cheesy romance that flourishes in the midst of adversity sounds like a nod to Christie's novels.
  • The music is very nice and goes well with the game.
  • NO PIXEL HUNTING. No extremely absurd combinations of inventory items, like "oh, let me glue cat hair to a baby rattle to make a crossbow".
  • The voice acting is not outstanding, but it's good enough to keep you in the atmosphere.

Things I didn't like about it:
  • There are several bugs. You get stuck walking but not moving, characters disappear in the middle of dialog, you disappear, objects disappear from your inventory, then they magically reappear. Sometimes you just have to restart from a previous save.
  • The graphics looked unfinished. Sometimes I could see the eyeball through the angle of the eyelid, details like that.
  • The movements were very awkward. Sometimes you arrive somewhere and have to examine an item, and for that, the character stops, turns left, stops again, turns a little more, stops again, then you have the animation of the character examining. Then, a pause, then the character's comment about it, then a pause, and then you can continue. It's not too bad, but it gets annoying after a few hours.
  • There aren't enough puzzles, though it's probably fair to say that I don't count as puzzle using a key to open a door, even though sometimes these things can be considered puzzles by others. The very few puzzles are generally too obvious, especially with all the help you get. Sometimes you examine an item, and the character comments something like "Oh, that would be useful to do this or that...".

In general, it's fairly entertaining and I enjoyed it, probably because the continuous references to Agatha Christie kept bringing a silly smile to my face. If I had to grade it, I guess it would be 7/10, though I'm not sure I'd grade it like this if I hadn't been a Christie fan.
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